Early Rut Roe

New shooting sidekick in tow, we headed out to see if we could secure one of the handful of Roe my local ground supports culling per year, in the early part of the Rut. Sam having been seeking a route into stalking but struggling with access and now having his DSC1 booked for November, I was keen for him to witness a cull sooner than later. Only having thirteen deer under the belt myself it felt a bit like the blind leading the blind but we reasoned it’s better for him than no support at all and I can still at least help him with the basics. Recce’s over the previous days hadn’t seen any rutting action, so it was more hopeful based on the date than in direct response to the Rut having actually started. A hopeful prayer to the Almighty prior was to prove more than Providential by the end.

The ground holding a good hundred acres or so of power and heating providing miscanthus in which the deer love to hide makes accessing other than by chance meeting incredibly difficult. Hence, the Rut provides the perfect opportunity to seek to call them out. Equally, a westerly wind dictated the best chance of calling in a buck from the adjacent woodland off the permission at the top of a valley running at 90-degress to the woodland. A very small area, but where my mentor had pinpointed and taken a buck some twelve years ago and I had taken another buck a year or two before having to surrender the FAC in 2018. Although treating the 2020 vaccine booster injury has been quite successful, mobility also still isn’t back to before levels and so although I can push myself to complete several miles of stalking if pushed, limiting walking to also limit the minimum week recovery time after is also preferable. The ambush approach would also enable taking the vehicle to within a couple of hundred metres walk so made double sense.

The family overseas on holiday I had been left dog sitting and despite being from a long line of gun dogs, Kenzi arrived after the loss of my FAC and finding fearful of anything ‘unusual’ and not responding well to early blank firing training, I hadn’t taken further. So, although well trained, he has been exclusively a family dog. My 24x7 companion, return of the FAC has therefore presented quite a predicament and he hasn’t accompanied me on any of the recent outings except odd farmyard pigeon culling visit where he can comfortably hang back and not be concerned with the hushed pfft from the moderated sub 12 ft lbs air rifle. Having Sam with me this evening and able to keep him on lead presented the ideal opportunity to see if he could cope with a slightly more adventurous outing.

Meeting at 19:00 Sam hopped into the passenger seat. Pausing to scan the open gently sloping ground just outside the farm, the solitary doe which frequents was still on her own enjoying dinner in the wheat. Watching a few minutes she eventually winded us and made her way back into the small patch of miscanthus at the bottom. Reaching and gearing up at our parking spot with seat rucksack and slung rifle, Kenzi was more pleased to be out with us than concerned with the unusual presentation of master complete with scary pointy noisy thingy over my shoulder. Reaching into the back of the Landrover to grab the sticks a sinking feeling arose as I realised they were still leaning against the cabinet at home. Not a great start. Moving off, Kenzi, despite straining at the leash in excitement, started well. However, it soon proved that whilst he had come to terms really well with everything else, he couldn’t cope with the squeak from the Buttolo to which he would growl and woof. So, back to sit it out in the Landrover for him.

An hour and a half sat in our ambush spot without so much of a sniff of deer and we reached that quandary of whether to stay put for the last 30-minutes of light or whether to see if there were any deer moving elsewhere. The latter feeling the more appealing, not a few hundred metres back towards the farm and a doe with closely following buck moved rapidly out from the field of peas and back into the miscanthus a hundred and fitty metres or so in front of us. Closing the distance and exiting the vehicle, a number of squeaks from the Buttolo and accompanying thorough scan with thermal revealing nothing else, we opted for the track between two blocks of miscanthus over the main track. Not another hundred metres down the track and a head could be seen gently bobbing over the top of the wheat block at the far end. A quick glass confirmed a young five point buck, an absolutely perfect cull. I exited the vehicle, retrieved rifle from the back, loaded, cycled and applied safety before moving to the bonnet and setting up on the bipod.

The buck was still completely oblivious to our presence, still mooching about in the wheat and slowly moving at ninety degrees, set to pop out of the wheat onto the track directly to our front a hundred metres or so away. Still having binocular/thermal chest pack in place complete with caller, I tried a few squeaks on the Buttolo. Initially the call had no effect and the buck continued slowly moving across our front. A few more squeaks and he turned and started slowly sauntering down a tractor line in the wheat directly towards us. Advancing so far, I could no longer track through scope with the bipod on the bonnet and so had to switch to freehand. However, he had closed the distance so much as to remove any concern over a freehand shot.

Suddenly sensing something not quite right, perhaps catching a slight scent, the buck stopped. Realising I wasn’t getting any other opportunity than another neck shot, but the angle meaning bullet would pass cleanly through without coming close to the body cavity, the split second decision was made. This the third deer with the new 6.5CM, the recoil was controlled well enough to see the buck drop on the spot. Sam hopped out the cab offering his congratulations and commenting that the buck had been taken at precisely 45m, range found with his shiny new binoculars. Briefing Sam on waiting a few minutes to ensure fully expired we then moved in to complete eye blink test with the rifle muzzle and confirm absolutely stone dead. A short drag out via tractor track in the wheat and it was onto the towbar gralloch stand for my first head-torch lit gralloch the remaining light now almost gone.

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This the third gralloch back went pretty well, especially proving the more complicated of the three deer taken so far. Running over the carcass and examining between the slots for any sign of disease, all was completely clear, the buck just presenting a little thinner than I would perhaps reasonably expect. The high neck shot with bullet track heading downwards and at such comparative short distance had however rendered a pretty frighteningly sized exit on the reverse of the neck, also puncturing the oesophagus and so presenting a challenge in usual gralloch approach to work around on the fly.

Consequently, realising I wouldn’t be able to tie off the oesophagus as normal and stomach contents already spiling out, I moved to the back end. Placing the usual knife slit at the base of the anus, it proved particularly challenging to extract the colon such that I had to release the winch and drop the buck onto the floor to release some of the pressure from the stomach. That worked and I was finally able to tie off the colon, winch the buck back up, remove the pizzle and testis and unzip, this time pleasingly without any rupture to the stomach and my third unsplit bladder in a row.

With stomach and intestines now out and over the ribs, I cut off completing a field gralloch to now figure out the mess at the neck end. The chest saw dealt with the ribs and with the pressure from the weight of the stomach now removed I was finally able to reach into the neck and tie off what remained of the oesophagus and extract with the rest of the red offal through the chest. It now clear the shot to the neck had literally severed the entire spinal column, cutting away the remaining skin and the neck and head simple dropped clear. Job done, completely clean carcass with no contamination, an incredibly pleasing result, especially with how first looked. A brief explanation of the pluck that presented completely clear of any cause for concern and the gralloch was bagged for removal from site and the carcass was swung into the 90l chiller complete with four ice packs in the boot.

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A text from the farmer asking to lock main gate on exit and Sam and I bid farewell and headed home. A deal having been struck with the local Farm Shop upon suggestion from kind members here following the last write up, for them to butcher in return for keeping every other carcass, I had planned to drop off with them the following morning. However, realising how lean this buck presented, I decided to pop the chiller on, keep and skin and butcher myself after all. So, taking a few days to recover now, an article on how long to keep deer in a chiller suggesting 7-days to allow the meat to set and flavour to develop and I’ll deal with in a few days time.

So, now up to fourteen deer and thoroughly enjoying and appreciating being back and the health holding up pretty well to boot. Another couple of fellow shooting club members having asked to accompany me on future outings for the experience, there will hopefully be time to squeeze them both in before the end of the rut. Here’s hoping.
 
Very detailed write up there and a nice buck 👍

That's a fair exit hole that's for sure. What bullets are you putting through the Creed?
 
Thanks Mike, it helps consolidate the learning, the brain not working so well these days thanks to the M.E.

Originally deciding against putting deer into the food chain other than for personal consumption, I opted for a lead rather than lead-free load. Obviously that will have to change now if I do end up putting carcasses into the local farm shop. However, the chiller working so well I'm having second thoughts on that. I do wish to increase my cull count to get DSC2 done sooner than later but still won't shoot significant numbers in any given year and so can more than happily munch my way through what I do take with a little help from friends.

Paul at Corinium therefore very kindly set me up with his personal 6.5 lead load centring around 130gr Nosler Accubond LR running at 2,800 fps. Here alongside 90gr Sako Gamehead (left). Fantastically flat trajectory.

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Thanks Mike, it helps consolidate the learning, the brain not working so well these days thanks to the M.E.

Originally deciding against putting deer into the food chain other than for personal consumption, I opted for a lead rather than lead-free load. Obviously that will have to change now if I do end up putting carcasses into the local farm shop. However, the chiller working so well I'm having second thoughts on that. I do wish to increase my cull count to get DSC2 done sooner than later but still won't shoot significant numbers in any given year and so can more than happily munch my way through what I do take with a little help from friends.

Paul at Corinium therefore very kindly set me up with his personal 6.5 lead load centring around 130gr Nosler Accubond LR running at 2,800 fps. Here alongside 90gr Sako Gamehead (left). Fantastically flat trajectory.

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Punchy old round 👍

I'm just swapping to 120 Grain Sako Powerblade (copper) as one of the game dealers only takes non toxic. The groupings arent as good as the 140 ELDX homeloads (not homeloaded by me and no surprise) but they were still sub 1" at 100 yards so more then up to the job from an accuracy perspective.

Take it steady
 
I must admit I really am quite shocked, it's far punchier than the .243 I shot previously (and is now setup for foxing). This time I did want a round better capable of properly flooring larger species, but since 99% of my deer control is Roe and Muntjac, I had hoped not to make quite so much a mess of those. Equally, this is the first proper mess and since neck shot, also isn't really too much an issue. I did get a telling off from Paul for taking other than boiler room shots and had resolved to revert to such but the neck shot was again the only shot offered. I have also resolved to take a boiler room shot as soon as one presents to see if anywhere near as 'punchy' so we'll see. Since we'll all now have to be on copper in due course anyway, it's probably academic. However, if I am retaining for personal consumption only, I shall likely still stick with lead as long as I possibly can.
 
I must admit I really am quite shocked, it's far punchier than the .243 I shot previously (and is now setup for foxing). This time I did want a round better capable of properly flooring larger species, but since 99% of my deer control is Roe and Muntjac, I had hoped not to make quite so much a mess of those. Equally, this is the first proper mess and since neck shot, also isn't really too much an issue. I did get a telling off from Paul for taking other than boiler room shots and had resolved to revert to such but the neck shot was again the only shot offered. I have also resolved to take a boiler room shot as soon as one presents to see if anywhere near as 'punchy' so we'll see. Since we'll all now have to be on copper in due course anyway, it's probably academic. However, if I am retaining for personal consumption only, I shall likely still stick with lead as long as I possibly can.
I love the Creed but it will make a mess if it catches them right (or wrong). Its your decision where to put the bullet and its not always possible to put the bullet in the boiler room. Deer was dead on the spot and thats the main thing so well done on that count.

I'm only moving from lead out of necessity rather then choice but lets see how it performs in real life...hopefully I will be pleasantly surprised 👍
 
I was out thus morning, found a youthful six pointer couched up near his lady friend. I don’t think there was any rutting going on but they were clearly staying close together…… until I spoiled it for him.
 
The vertebrae in the neck although thin, is still a dense bone and this alone i would have thought caused the large exit, it would probably be bone exiting i dont imagine the bullet breaking up.
Great write up, thank you
 
Thanks Mike, it helps consolidate the learning, the brain not working so well these days thanks to the M.E.

Originally deciding against putting deer into the food chain other than for personal consumption, I opted for a lead rather than lead-free load. Obviously that will have to change now if I do end up putting carcasses into the local farm shop. However, the chiller working so well I'm having second thoughts on that. I do wish to increase my cull count to get DSC2 done sooner than later but still won't shoot significant numbers in any given year and so can more than happily munch my way through what I do take with a little help from friends.

Paul at Corinium therefore very kindly set me up with his personal 6.5 lead load centring around 130gr Nosler Accubond LR running at 2,800 fps. Here alongside 90gr Sako Gamehead (left). Fantastically flat trajectory.

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Can, or will, you share the load as I have a 6.5 creed?
It sounds faster than mine, and possibly worth a try for me, with less drop.
 
Sorry Eldon, I genuinely don't know, albeit intentionally. It's Paul at Corinium's own personal load which he is kindly loading for me too.
 
I did get a telling off from Paul for taking other than boiler room shots and had resolved to revert to such but the neck shot was again the only shot offered.
Perhaps it's just me becoming grumpier, but I do tend lose patience very quickly with people who dictate the type of shot others should, or shouldn't be taking. If a neck shot is appropriate, take it. Advice is always welcome, dogma is not
 
Agree Quixote although I do understand the concern and coming from the right place. We've sadly seen the effects on another recent write up of a neck shot going wrong. However, if it's the only shot presented and one is confident of ones marksmanship, I do think it's a perfectly viable alternative to boiler room and just as, if not more humane, as death is instant with the spinal column severed.
 
I must admit I really am quite shocked, it's far punchier than the .243 I shot previously (and is now setup for foxing). This time I did want a round better capable of properly flooring larger species, but since 99% of my deer control is Roe and Muntjac, I had hoped not to make quite so much a mess of those. Equally, this is the first proper mess and since neck shot, also isn't really too much an issue. I did get a telling off from Paul for taking other than boiler room shots and had resolved to revert to such but the neck shot was again the only shot offered. I have also resolved to take a boiler room shot as soon as one presents to see if anywhere near as 'punchy' so we'll see. Since we'll all now have to be on copper in due course anyway, it's probably academic. However, if I am retaining for personal consumption only, I shall likely still stick with lead as long as I possibly can.
The accubond is a cracking bullet, it’s what I used in the creedmoor until switching to copper and then to .280.

They aren’t overly soft, compared to say 120 NBTs or Prohunters, and you’ll be fine with chest shots, you have to bear in mind you hit a pretty substantial lump of bone at close range. That’s caused the bullet to expand violently and expend most of its energy in, and exiting the animal, along with any bone you’ve pushed out along the way.

Also, if you’re supplying your farm shop skinned animals you’ll need to register as a food business, if in the skin no need.
 
Thanks Sharps, helpful confirmation. I just read that in another thread yesterday. Bizarre that simply removing skin requires registering as a food business 🤷‍♂️ The Farm Shop desire skinned simply to avoid the extra work and have the stalkers undertake out of view in their yard. Think that absolutely confirms I shall just stick to personal consumption to avoid the added hassle.
 
Thanks Sharps, helpful confirmation. I just read that in another thread yesterday. Bizarre that simply removing skin requires registering as a food business 🤷‍♂️ The Farm Shop desire skinned simply to avoid the extra work and have the stalkers undertake out of view in their yard. Think that absolutely confirms I shall just stick to personal consumption to avoid the added hassle.
If you’re Chippenham I can probably guess which farm shop.

Personally, I skin and drop to a butcher, all comes back butchered, Vac packed and ready to go.

Occasionally I’ll do one for myself but generally getting the job done is easier!
 
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