Blaser243
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Sent you an email, @Boghossian.
Excess venison
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I did not say there was or was not a fc truck without a lamp attached. I did say out of season license and night shooting license are used to at times. There are restrictons within these license that have to be adhered to.BrilliantAnswer me this then .... have you ever seen an fc truck without a lamp attached ?.........because I sure as hell haven’t, but surely they don’t need a lamp in England as they don’t issue night licences here ....... have a think and get back to me
jimbo1984
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But they’re not , hence my question if night shooting licences aren’t allowed in England why does every truck have a lamp ? Ah must just be rabbiting
It is strange how i have worked with a few contractors, some snh staff and some fc staff and i can say the ones i have worked with are committed to culiing deer in a manner which is in my eyes would be totally acceptable and professional. It is strange how other people have only ever came across or heard of all the bad contractors, snh and fc staff
I am not sure about the night shooting in england. Perhaps english nature is going to issue tham or has done.But they’re not , hence my question if night shooting licences aren’t allowed in England why does every truck have a lamp ? Ah must just be rabbiting
jimbo1984
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I don’t think they do , I’ve a funny feeling our fc lads are just making life easier for themselves
Dan Newcombe
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This has gone off on a bit of a tangent.
Up here in Scotland there is no shortage of dealers wanting your venison and not paying bad prices (more would always be nice!). When i was down round home in Gloucestershire it seemed to be a bit more sparse but that was 10 years ago and my mates who are still down there aren't reporting problems, in fact when i have been home some of them have been crying out for beasts!
SNH are a lot more amenable to night licenses than NE if you fill in the forms correctly and they are a really useful tool for culling deer especially in forestry blocks etc. I'm pretty sure that we are not going to get into a position where we run out of deer - the main issue is getting people on the ground to actually shoot them! There are always good and bad in each industry and you hear some amazing stories about contractors but at the end of the day they only get paid on deer that they recover - there is no reward for missing or wounding!
Up here in Scotland there is no shortage of dealers wanting your venison and not paying bad prices (more would always be nice!). When i was down round home in Gloucestershire it seemed to be a bit more sparse but that was 10 years ago and my mates who are still down there aren't reporting problems, in fact when i have been home some of them have been crying out for beasts!
SNH are a lot more amenable to night licenses than NE if you fill in the forms correctly and they are a really useful tool for culling deer especially in forestry blocks etc. I'm pretty sure that we are not going to get into a position where we run out of deer - the main issue is getting people on the ground to actually shoot them! There are always good and bad in each industry and you hear some amazing stories about contractors but at the end of the day they only get paid on deer that they recover - there is no reward for missing or wounding!
Boghossian
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Talk about a pointless tangent.
Thanks to those of you who have posted, emailed and PMed with helpful suggestions.
Thanks to those of you who have posted, emailed and PMed with helpful suggestions.
I'm with you on this boghossian. I don't think people understand yet what this means. But if (it might be temporary) it carries on for a long time all the other game dealers wil be swamped with venison and that is not good news.
Brilliant
Ah Jimbo, these are for shooting rabbits and hares
I believe the FC when they tell me that.
jimbo1984
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Bashing ?? Or honesty ....... thanks though boss
levigsp
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What a total load of horse****.
The standard licence issued to all infenced land for out of season culling, protects hinds from april to September. But if a contractor applies of an out of season licence to clear an area and this includes FC staff, then the can and do get kill on sight licences. The Big forest of Rumpster and Camster were cleared of deer by FC and contractors under licence. They were reported by various people for shooting hinds and new born calf's out of season, including by myself. SNH simply replied! if its not your land, ignore it. " What you are saying can be very damaging to all of us and it is this that is scandalous." but if its true, why shouldn't he say so? and if you know anything about the present SNH killing policy, you know it the truth.
jimbo1984
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Now now don’t start telling the truth .... I mean erm bashing !
Dan Newcombe
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It really is a problem, as you say.
I can’t really believe that it is a scheme by the dealers, more likely that it is genuinely supply and demand.
I can’t really believe that it is a scheme by the dealers, more likely that it is genuinely supply and demand.
countrryboy
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But if it truly s supply and demand why is'nt the price of butchered venison dropping??
Surely if the demand for finished venison is not there they should be dropping prices, to create more demand.
How can they justify charging the same as when paying top dollar and getting them for peanuts. I presume the overheads/cost of butchering/processing should be largely the same.
I think there doing the same as with game birds, know they will be shot anyway so don't need to pay money for them, no brainer if they're getting birds for nowt and no shoots/stalkers are normally to lazy to do anything else.
So they can keep prices artificially high while paying rock bottom prices, win win for dealers
jimbo1984
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It’s all related .......
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