Fallow behaviour cold snap

dryan

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Would you expect fallow to stay within sheltered forestry during a sharp cold snap, or still expecting them to come into pasture for grazing?
 
Shot 2 out of the forest on arable in -5 hard frost and snow on Wednesday morning..... they were quite happy (until I showed up and ruined their day)
 
Always stand more chance when you’re out than when you’re tucked up in bed...... got to be in it to win it....
Due to lockdown and working from home I was out 4 days out of 5 last week, sometimes I need a rest!

At least getting out stalking makes covid lockdown a bit more bearable.
 
Tend to find if it's just a short cold snap, a day or two they tuck up. Anything more than two days and they get hungry and they are everywhere.

This time of year food is scarce enough that they more or less have to come out.
 
They are staying in where there is food as too many walkers and dogs about around the fields.
Some come out and snatch a bite for a minute or two.
 
Saw a huge herd (around 50+) deer in the middle of a field just off the junction between M25 and A12. They were grazing right in the middle of the field and I was surprised at the numbers. Looked too big to be Roe and it has to be Fallow unless there's Sika around there. Not sure who owns the permission out there but its one good permissions to have.
 
Deer will often go into 'reverse cycle' when it is cold like this.
They do not like to eat frosted vegetation, and who can blame them?
It is not unusual to see them beginning to emerge at the end of a morning stalk when you've probably seen nothing!
Just after you've gone home, they will be out feeding on vegetation that the sun has thawed. They then disappear into cover again just before you come back for an evening stalk and the frost has formed again!
Try staying in bed, and then go out later in the morning sun! It will be much warmer and you are more likely to see deer!
MS
 
Deer will often go into 'reverse cycle' when it is cold like this.
They do not like to eat frosted vegetation, and who can blame them?
It is not unusual to see them beginning to emerge at the end of a morning stalk when you've probably seen nothing!
Just after you've gone home, they will be out feeding on vegetation that the sun has thawed. They then disappear into cover again just before you come back for an evening stalk and the frost has formed again!
Try staying in bed, and then go out later in the morning sun! It will be much warmer and you are more likely to see deer!
MS
And dog walkers sadly....
 
Saw a huge herd (around 50+) deer in the middle of a field just off the junction between M25 and A12. They were grazing right in the middle of the field and I was surprised at the numbers. Looked too big to be Roe and it has to be Fallow unless there's Sika around there. Not sure who owns the permission out there but its one good permissions to have.
They are fallow, there are loads of them in that area
 
They are fallow, there are loads of them in that area
Do you happen to know who might own the land or who manages the land? Its within driving distance and would happily help out to manage the population. Don't know the area that well though.
 
Do you happen to know who might own the land or who manages the land? Its within driving distance and would happily help out to manage the population. Don't know the area that well though.
Shoe on the other foot, say it’s your ground and some bloke on a forum is asking who’s it is and questioning whether they need a hand as you can see there is a massive group which looks like promising stalking..... not really the right way to go about things I would suggest. How would you feel if it was yours? I know I would instantly be on the defensive!
 
Shoe on the other foot, say it’s your ground and some bloke on a forum is asking who’s it is and questioning whether they need a hand as you can see there is a massive group which looks like promising stalking..... not really the right way to go about things I would suggest. How would you feel if it was yours? I know I would instantly be on the defensive!
If it was mine, I would probably get all the help I can get. I do know that the virus has caused an increase of deer population and we all could do with a helping hand at times. Also what if there was no shoe and the ground wasn't managed at all. It could allow for someone who knows the area to maybe get a new permission or for the permission to reliase that there might be deer on his/ her land.

I don't personally believe in biting off more than I can chew and conservation in my view is doing what is right. Its better than deer causing accidents as its next to a busy highway. Just my point of view.
 
Do you happen to know who might own the land or who manages the land? Its within driving distance and would happily help out to manage the population. Don't know the area that well though.
Saw a huge herd (around 50+) deer in the middle of a field just off the junction between M25 and A12. They were grazing right in the middle of the field and I was surprised at the numbers. Looked too big to be Roe and it has to be Fallow unless there's Sika around there. Not sure who owns the permission out there but its one good permissions to have.
Its a deer park. Cant remember what its called.

Tim243 will know.
 
A lot of the Deer off the A12/M25 get onto Southweald park. My understanding is the land is well covered there and believe it or not large numbers are shot. Despite the big herds. It’s just the nature of it this time of year. I see similar things in other areas and can usually find /see big herds which are often sitting / grazing on land which I know isn’t shot as the landowner is not interested and like the deer. That’s often why they are out in the safe zones. Can stalk right up to them if I get it right but unless they cross the boundaries they are safe. Very Frustrating. They know the area’s. All that said no one or groups can be out covering all the land constantly but the persistent pressure of shooting and the need for them to feed means they are often easily found in daylight this time of year but don’t venture onto easier pickings until just after proper dark.

Edit. That said. If it was easy then it would soon get boring not to mention they would eventually be Eliminated.
 
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