Firearms possession and burglar alarms
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Jim Hutton
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My concern about alarms is that it indicates you have something worth stealing. My solution is to have various lights within the house come on so that it appears no different whether we are home or not.
A very good point!
ADT have recently halved their monthly monitoring free since the pulling of BT's Red Care dual line system that was a combination of copper and GSM. At least they will if you tell them you intend to terminate your contract!
The replacement for Red Care is something called DualCom.
K
Everybody knows, including particularly the police, that burglar alarms are no use at all unless there is a very high probability of the police turning up double quick to arrest the burglar(s). In the absence of a solid commitment by the police to do that in every instance, then any requirement for an alarm is effectively just a tax and duty on the applicant, and not an improvement to security or public safety.
Rake Aboot
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The answer is still no
Generally, the police will not respond to alarms unless there's something that indicates there is a crime in progress. Which. of course is a very small minority of them. So if you have one where a notification is to a monitoring company, then them calling the police meets the same policy from the police. So they can, of course send one of their operatives. But don't expect them to do anything pro-active if something is actually happening, even should they get there any time soon. Except call the police. Who.....etc. etc.
An alarm activation that contacts the householder these days is the best alternative, price-wise as much as anything. As the householder, you can then go yourself or ask someone nearby you trust. That won't stop a burglary of course, but at least it'll mean there's someone to hand who can remedy the situation somewhat afterwards.
Relying on catching burglars really is bolting the stable door when the horse has fled. Security is key. Good doors, windows, lights, cameras, a barky dog or two and the place being occupied all help prevention. And it holds true that a determined burglar won't be stopped. Even lights and loud alarms will just put them on notice to hurry up. But even being in the house isn't always a total success. Remember George Digweed's harrowing experience?
As for whether you need an alarm, then there's nothing specific in law, but as above, the police will require one if you have more than a certain number of guns. And although you don't have to, then the police can then say that your guns won't be secure enough and not issue a certificate.
The over all policy to have as a certificate holder in my view is to do whatever you can to reasonably secure your firearms to the point where if the worst does happen, then when the police look at things after any (hopefully non-existent) burglary, they cannot fault you for being remiss in your security measures.
An alarm activation that contacts the householder these days is the best alternative, price-wise as much as anything. As the householder, you can then go yourself or ask someone nearby you trust. That won't stop a burglary of course, but at least it'll mean there's someone to hand who can remedy the situation somewhat afterwards.
Relying on catching burglars really is bolting the stable door when the horse has fled. Security is key. Good doors, windows, lights, cameras, a barky dog or two and the place being occupied all help prevention. And it holds true that a determined burglar won't be stopped. Even lights and loud alarms will just put them on notice to hurry up. But even being in the house isn't always a total success. Remember George Digweed's harrowing experience?
As for whether you need an alarm, then there's nothing specific in law, but as above, the police will require one if you have more than a certain number of guns. And although you don't have to, then the police can then say that your guns won't be secure enough and not issue a certificate.
The over all policy to have as a certificate holder in my view is to do whatever you can to reasonably secure your firearms to the point where if the worst does happen, then when the police look at things after any (hopefully non-existent) burglary, they cannot fault you for being remiss in your security measures.
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