First .270 ...

[rabbit_Stu]

Further to my previous post i think I'm getting nearer to what I hope are some good options. If anyone could comment some pro's and con's of the below I'd appreciate it.

Just to note, I'm going to go with wooden stock and blued/black barrel. I've debated to and fro about stock material and I'm now set on a wooden stock.

Bergara B14 Timber - £795
Browning A Bolt Hunter - £606
Remington 700 ADL £529
Howa 1500 £770

Any help or experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Stuart

 

[tusker]

I would have the Howa. Are those prices new or second-hand? You might like CZ. Better than all of those put together. You would also pick up a nice Parker Hale for half those prices.
Tusker

 

[rabbit_Stu]

They are all new prices. I've been put of the Parker Hales because of the age they all are now. I'm edging towards to the A bolt at the minute for the thumb safety. Its a bloody tough job buying a new rifle!!

 

[Eric the Red]

All I would say is that you will get more choice of aftermarket bits - even down to rails and rings etc. - if you choose Howa or Remmy. Ultimately it will be your personal preference on aesthetics, handling and price that will/should make the decision.

 

[Gunner223]

Tikka ????

 

[unicorn71]

To be honest i'd look at Tom's tikka 690 for sale in the classifieds , imho a much better rifle than most modern offerings .

 

[Ozalid]

When you’ve been out in the ****ing rain a few times you will wish you had gone synthetic, I know I did.

 

[BuckarooUK]

Ask a dozen stalkers and youll get a dozen opinions. I personally prefer older Tikka and Sako rifles 1970-80s. I consider them built to a standard rather than modern rifles, which are built to a price.

I may even be right, but that doesnt mean that my recommendation is right for you. Theres no substitute for actually handling the rifles, mounting to your shoulder and cycling the bolt a few times. Id even suggest wearing what you intend to wear when stalking, whilst handling and comparing them.

For example, I have long arms and find the CZ rifle stocks short. Perfectly good rifles but too short on me.

 

[Tim.243]

Further to my previous post i think I'm getting nearer to what I hope are some good options. If anyone could comment some pro's and con's of the below I'd appreciate it.

Just to note, I'm going to go with wooden stock and blued/black barrel. I've debated to and fro about stock material and I'm now set on a wooden stock.

Bergara B14 Timber - £795
Browning A Bolt Hunter - £606
Remington 700 ADL £529
Howa 1500 £770

Any help or experiences would be greatly appreciated.

Stuart

I have a 700 in .270 with a magazine, the adl is loaded from the top...so unloaded from the top.

Very happy with it...

Tim.243

 

[rem284]

Edinburgh Rifles had a lovely looking Krico 270 a wee while ago

 

[paul o']

+1 but look at new tikka's as well , unless its a new Rem your need to know if its had the trigger recall sorted also a DM will make easy to make safe if its a first rifle . If i only had the same choice as you i'd look at the top two but go on you tube and watch every review i could find as there will be good and not so on all rifles . Me iam not a fan of howa or Rem but the Rem is the better Rifle to build off should you ever wish to build it into a semi custom job ,the other thing is free bore on Rems its another built in safety factor and sometimes it can be hard to get a home load to work but not out of the question .
i have a old tikka 695 semi custom and could't be more happy with it.
as a foot note old rifles some times need new parts and that then can become a real bugger .
End of the day its your cash so its got to be your choice but wish you well in your quest

To be honest i'd look at Tom's tikka 690 for sale in the classifieds , imho a much better rifle than most modern offerings .

 

[stubear]

I've handled a Bergara and they seem like really well made rifles.

I like the Brownings as well except for the triggers! They have shotgun triggers - Loads of pressure with no movement and then they suddenly go.

 

[enfieldspares]

The Remington as you can buy all sorts of things. Just email them about the trigger!

 

[Burnies Boy]

I have a Bergara B14 Hunter in .243, its a nice rifle and shoots well. I was never that happy with the factory trigger and have now fitted a trigger tech
unit, now I would say that it is probably on par with some custom rifles accuracy wise. You don't mention what scope you are thinking about fitting, I feel
that far too many people concentrate on the rifle not the scope. I was always told in my younger day two things, spend your money on the scope
and the change on the rifle, and if you cannot see it you cannot shoot it. I have seen too many stalkers in my time turning up with a nice rifle with
a cheap scope that you cannot see an image through long before its time to pack up. After all that first / last 15mins can quite often be the most productive of the day.

 

[paul o']

Sound and good advice scope is norm more that the cost of the rifle

I have a Bergara B14 Hunter in .243, its a nice rifle and shoots well. I was never that happy with the factory trigger and have now fitted a trigger tech
unit, now I would say that it is probably on par with some custom rifles accuracy wise. You don't mention what scope you are thinking about fitting, I feel
that far too many people concentrate on the rifle not the scope. I was always told in my younger day two things, spend your money on the scope
and the change on the rifle, and if you cannot see it you cannot shoot it. I have seen too many stalkers in my time turning up with a nice rifle with
a cheap scope that you cannot see an image through long before its time to pack up. After all that first / last 15mins can quite often be the most productive of the day.

 

[Markfox]

Tikka T3 eigher wood or synthetic or have both stocks

itll shoot great and hold its value

Why would you buy a lesser quality gun like a Howa

 

[Rasputin]

I have a Howa but with a synthetic stock. Good quality does the job. Trigger is agricultural though but other than that can’t fault it really. Recoils a bit harsh because it lacks weight. Bought the whole package new last year.

 

[RCS Deer Management]

The Remington ADL has about a 50% rate of having defects in the barrel. However parts and components are extremely common, and the actions are good for building a custom rifle off.

Browning a bolts are a nightmare to reballel with many gunsmiths refusing to work on them. They also have poor triggers that get in the way when bedding the rifle. However they normally shoot well out of the factory and it isn’t till there is something wrong and they need working on that a problem occurs.

howas are okay, avoid the houge stock at all costs, I have had to deal with so many Howas that wouldn’t shoot, and in 95% of cases this has been cured by a change of stock.Aftermarket components are easy to get and the barrels are normally okay.

Bergaras have stunning barrels, okay stocks and good (improved Rem 700) actions. Built on a rem 700 footprint so parts are easy to find, tend to shoot very well. My .308 once bedded now shoots sub 1/4” groups consistently.

There are good and bad rifles in any make and model, witch is why one person will slate a certain rifle and another will love it. However out of the rifles you mentioned I have seen most consistent accuracy and quality over a range of rifles from the bergara.

 

[Southern]

Begara barrels and Winchester are the same.
If you like nice blue and walnut, look at the Model 70, Featherweight and Supergrade.

For open sights, M700 ADL or BDL, or CZ 550.

 

[TSG]

CZ550 +1

Very good rifles for the money, good copy of Mouser 98 action with controlled feed.

CZ makes good barrels.