First outing, pulled trigger, strange ending...

So as a little background, I've been shooting for years but only ever target shooting. I've shot PRS, benchrest and generally shoot everyweek going through 200 - 300 rounds a month accross a variety of platforms and calibers. Bolt actions, semi's and lever actions from 22lr to 300wm. I shoot open sights, red dots and optics. I suppose the point being is that I'm comfortable with firearms.
I have a neighbour who, for the last 15 years, has been inviting me out hunting. He has a huge number of permissions with everything from pheasant to boar to keep you busy. Early on it was never really something that interested me but as I've got older I've got more interested. For one reason or another I've never been able to take him up on his offer.
In passing I mention that I'm on annual leave this week and don't have anything planned. Out of the blue I get a knock on the door about 8 o'clock last night and it's my neighbour. "Do you fancy coming out on the foxes tonight?". Initially I was considering a quiet evening on the sofa but my wife gives me a dig and tells me not to be rude and to go with him. "Why not." I say. I throw some food down myself quickly and by 9pm we are on the road. The permission is only 15mins away so it's still reasonable light and the farmer is still working in the field when we arrive.
By about 10.30 the farmer was done for the day and we set up in the hedgeline roughly halfway along the field. The first hour was relatively slow, I scanned the bottom half of the field with the thermal on the rifle and he watched the top with the spotter. One or two foxes crept cautiously around the far hedgeline but the long grass and thick cover made a clean shot unlikely. Equally so this was my first time with this rifle, a Howa 22-250, and my first time with a thermal scope. Ideally I wanted the fox to be inside 100yrds, broad side and in the open. The last thing I wanted to do was miss or worse, injure it.
I get a tap on the shoulder as he spots a fox appearing from the hedgeline at the top of the field. I turn the gun round and find it in my scope. It was at around 90yrds out but was currently stood infront of the gate to the field which led out onto the lane. I keep the cross hairs on him praying that he'll move clear of the gate. I don't fancy sending a stray round up the lane at 4000fps. His head is constantly up but he is slowly venturing into the field. By this point my heart is racing and I had to take a few deep breaths. Despite it being gone midnight it was still 20 degrees outside and I was breaking into a sweat. He is still broadside to me and as I fumble the safety with my sweaty palms his head comes up to look straight at me. THWACK! I never appreciated how distinct the sound was of such a small bullet striking an animal. The fox drops on the spot, I chamber another round just in case but nothing, no movement. After the obligatory pat on the back we move up to assess the shot. By now it is pitch black and, after 2 hours of having my eye stuck to a thermal, my eyesight was struggling to adapt. We walked line of sight about 10mtrs apart in the direction of the gate under torch light and, after walking what felt like about 500mtrs (it wasn't) find said fox. Dropped on the spot, dead as can be.
This is where it took a strange turn. After the initial relief that a) we'd found it and b) it was dead, we noticed something unusual. No blood, no visible bullet wound. The fox was on it's side so I rolled it over expecting to see an exit wound but nothing. We stood in disbelief. I dragged it off into the hedgeline but still nothing obvious.
We came to the conclusion that I'd missed and it had died laughing at my awful shooting.
To conclude my first outing I'm afraid I couldn't say, hand on heart, that I'd shot a fox. I can only confirm that I was in some way reasponsible for its demise.
Definately something I will be doing again though maybe I'll take the 300wm next time.
 
Well at least you got a result, even if you're not sure how or why!
Nice write up, thanks for sharing.

Not sure what your mentor was thinking of though, letting you use the scope on the rifle as a spotter, particularly with regard to spotting in the gateway to the road. Especially as you hadn't used the setup before, so were unfamiliar with the safety catch etc.
Be good idea to get yourself a budget entry-level hand-held thermal for your own use. And maybe a different mentor.
 
Well done on your first fox, there will have been an entry, somewhere and the bullet will have broken up inside the fox. Happens a lot with Varmint bullets going fast.

One thing, and this is not a dig as you were under the guidance of your neighbour, scanning with a weapon mounted thermal is a definite no-no safety wise, he should have known better.
 
Well at least you got a result, even if you're not sure how or why!
Nice write up, thanks for sharing.

Not sure what your mentor was thinking of though, letting you use the scope on the rifle as a spotter, particularly with regard to spotting in the gateway to the road. Especially as you hadn't used the setup before, so were unfamiliar with the safety catch etc.
Be good idea to get yourself a budget entry-level thermal for your own use. And maybe a different mentor.
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We came to the conclusion that I'd missed and it had died laughing at my awful shooting.
If you can, try and do a proper examination of the carcase (if still available) and see if it was a clean through and through - although I would still expect to see blood.
On a slightly different vein.....my first Stag was a ....err.... senior beast...... the stalker I was out with suggested it had died of shock from the rifle report rather than the superbly placed bullet!
Well done on the fox:thumb:
 
Many varmint bullets make a small hole on the way in and then completely fragment within the animal. They are designed to do this so that they don’t spoil valuable fur.

In North America- where most varmint bullets originate - there is still a good and valuable market in beaver, fox, coyote, bobcat furs. But not if they are ripped apart with big entry and exit wounds.
 
Well at least you got a result, even if you're not sure how or why!
Nice write up, thanks for sharing.

Not sure what your mentor was thinking of though, letting you use the scope on the rifle as a spotter, particularly with regard to spotting in the gateway to the road. Especially as you hadn't used the setup before, so were unfamiliar with the safety catch etc.
Be good idea to get yourself a budget entry-level hand-held thermal for your own use. And maybe a different mentor.
This is one of my real concerns with thermals. They really are not cheap. And you spend your coin on just a rifle mounted thermal scope as its all you can afford. Then the temptation is to use this as the primary spotting tool.

Better IMHO to have a hand held device to spot with and then go old school with light and scope to take the shot.
 
This is one of my real concerns with thermals. They really are not cheap. And you spend your coin on just a rifle mounted thermal scope as its all you can afford. Then the temptation is to use this as the primary spotting tool.

Better IMHO to have a hand held device to spot with and then go old school with light and scope to take the shot.

I get that Heym
But is it sort of not the same with glass ?
People buy a lovely scope - not so with binos and then the temptation is to scan with the scope ?

Its education thats required
 
Have you got the bug for it now?
Nice write up, and I can only echo what others have mentioned about getting another spotter.

My findings with using a 58g bullet in the .243 is if you perfectly hit the shoulder you sometimes don’t get an exit, and only a tiny entry. However, the sound the fox makes is like sloshing a half empty barrel.
 
Have you got the bug for it now?
Nice write up, and I can only echo what others have mentioned about getting another spotter.

My findings with using a 58g bullet in the .243 is if you perfectly hit the shoulder you sometimes don’t get an exit, and only a tiny entry. However, the sound the fox makes is like sloshing a half empty barrel.
Definately going to do this more often. I got more satisfaction from that one shot than 100 shots at the range. The peace and serenity of the countryside in the middle of the night was half of the enjoyment. I would have come home equally as fulfilled even if I hadn't managed to pull the trigger. Everyones point regarding scanning with the rifle taken on board. It just goes to show how experience on a range doesn't translate. I wouldn't dream of pointing the muzzle anywhere other than the target at a range. I'm an experienced shooter and should have known better but completely disregarded the fact that the scope was attached to the weapon. That said, I'm constantly assessing the backstop / surroundings as I'm scanning. Question is at what point does scanning become target aquisition? Appreciate most will likely say when you have a target but there were ample targets, what lacked were suitable conditions. What would the experienced approach be? Watch the fox in the hedgeline through the spotter until it presents as a viable target or switch to the scope once the fox is spotted?
 
I get that Heym
But is it sort of not the same with glass ?
People buy a lovely scope - not so with binos and then the temptation is to scan with the scope ?

Its education thats required
Agreed. Scope on rifle is for aiming.

Binoculars are for finding animals, determining whether its something you want to shoot and confirming that there is safe backdrop and a courting couple is not bonking behind the hedge which is behind the deer.

I would always suggest

1) spend really good money on a good pair of binoculars - the best you can afford. If money is tight don’t bother with any form of electronics in there, and drop down to 36mm objectives rather than 42mm.

2) by a good but simple 6x42 scope. Don’t buy a cheap zoom.

3) spend rest on the rifle.
 
Definately going to do this more often. I got more satisfaction from that one shot than 100 shots at the range. The peace and serenity of the countryside in the middle of the night was half of the enjoyment. I would have come home equally as fulfilled even if I hadn't managed to pull the trigger. Everyones point regarding scanning with the rifle taken on board. It just goes to show how experience on a range doesn't translate. I wouldn't dream of pointing the muzzle anywhere other than the target at a range. I'm an experienced shooter and should have known better but completely disregarded the fact that the scope was attached to the weapon. That said, I'm constantly assessing the backstop / surroundings as I'm scanning. Question is at what point does scanning become target aquisition? Appreciate most will likely say when you have a target but there were ample targets, what lacked were suitable conditions. What would the experienced approach be? Watch the fox in the hedgeline through the spotter until it presents as a viable target or switch to the scope once the fox is spotted?
All guns are always loaded

Never point a gun at something you don’t wish to destroy

Always make sure of your target and more importantly the back drop.

And finger off the trigger till your sights are aligned.


There is a huge huge huge from shooting on a range to shooting in the field.

To be honest being taken out for a first time shot in the dark by your mate is bloody stupid. Especially as by asking the above sorts of questions, it clearly shows either he hasn’t properly briefed you on safe field shooting, or he has no clue or you haven’t taken on board what he has said.

I don’t mean to be blunt, but what you describe is an absolute disaster waiting to happen. Night shooting is something for experienced individuals who know and understand field shooting and experienced in selecting targets and safe backdrops.
 
Things do not always go to plan, especially on your first time out. The result was what you were after. Congratulations on your first fox. You do not know what you do not know. There is some good advise in the post above. If you enjoyed it keep at it and one day you may well be proffering advice to another fresh gun.
 
If you're solely foxing, a good handheld thermal, as it's going to be dark.
Binoculars are useless in the dark.
 
A fox is a soft skinned animal of moderate size. A very fast hunting bullet will fragment and often stay completely inside the body, showing no exit wound. You are not concerned with the meat, just the immediate death of the quarry. Your bullet did just that.
 
The bullet entry was small as was the exit and plugged itself off? , bullet did not exit ? Fairly common with very frangible bullets, or You had an in one ear hole out the other Rare but i have had it only signs you get is a fast drop and just a tiny bit of blood out the exit ear hole
 
So it is possible to kill an animal by the shock of the bullet passing very close but missing the animal. This will kill a fox I’m sure and I’ve heard of humans in battle being incapacitated by bullets passing by their heads.
Personally I head shot a roe the other day and it dropped on the spot no need to reload I thought and after a couple of minutes it got up and walked unsteadily off I reloaded and inspected the animal for damage through the scope…. It was fine it turned and I saw the other side it was also fine. After standing a few seconds it gathered itself and bounded off! I was in such shock at the zombie animal that I never got another shot off!!!! So there you go shock can rattle you a bit !!
 
So it is possible to kill an animal by the shock of the bullet passing very close but missing the animal. This will kill a fox I’m sure and I’ve heard of humans in battle being incapacitated by bullets passing by their heads.
Personally I head shot a roe the other day and it dropped on the spot no need to reload I thought and after a couple of minutes it got up and walked unsteadily off I reloaded and inspected the animal for damage through the scope…. It was fine it turned and I saw the other side it was also fine. After standing a few seconds it gathered itself and bounded off! I was in such shock at the zombie animal that I never got another shot off!!!! So there you go shock can rattle you a bit !!
I had exactly the same with a Roe, it was staggering zombie like after the shot but didn’t drop, friend I was with had a clearer shot so dropped it. I had missed it completely :(
 
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