Fox - 60 ft lbs air rifle at 60 yards
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BenBhoy
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....what??
Even most centrefires if discharged into the ground at very close range don't make very much noise at all.
I'm sure many already know this, but a 17HMR fired without a mode is remarkably LOUD.
I'm sure many already know this, but a 17HMR fired without a mode is remarkably LOUD.
Nickb
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Who shoots an HMR at point blank ?
My average shots are between 70 and 100 yds and it's LOUD
We are talking about shooting trapped foxes
Nickb
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Off topic I know but it set me thinking about how you could get a quiet/subsonic deer round
So if my maths is right a 650grain bullet just under the speed of sound is over the req muzzle energy
And it just so happens that .50BMG comes in 650gr and even in subsonic factory ammo
Anyone got 50BMG as a deer round on their ticket want to let me know if it works?
Smellydog
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FFS some will argue with their own fecking shadow.
The discussion morphed into what is safer between hmr, 410 and a 22 for dispatching something trapped, a fox at that.
A freaking 17gn bullet at point blank is safer. The bullet will disintegrate.
The other choices may ricochet.
Under such conditions they are not very loud at all with a moderator on.
I've done it and I fecking know FFS.
Big headed ****s bloody everywhere poking their big fat face in where it obviously doesn't belong.
The discussion morphed into what is safer between hmr, 410 and a 22 for dispatching something trapped, a fox at that.
A freaking 17gn bullet at point blank is safer. The bullet will disintegrate.
The other choices may ricochet.
Under such conditions they are not very loud at all with a moderator on.
I've done it and I fecking know FFS.
Big headed ****s bloody everywhere poking their big fat face in where it obviously doesn't belong.
Bo Diddley
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The Stalking Directory membership for the last few weeks...
kenbro
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Hmmm.
I firmly believe that our alpha predator deserves our respect and, like all of our quarry, we should do what we can to give them a quick and pain-free end to their lives - of course shot placement is a key element of this but essentially this also means using a round with sufficient power and a bit more in reserve to perhaps make up for some margin of error on our behalf. This is why after many years of being restricted to .22 lr for fox control I moved to the .222 - when the authorities finally relented. Funny how times change - said authorities will now not grant a 22lr for fox control as it is considered inhumane…
This lad obviously hadn’t read all of the bang-flop script. .222 Vmax bullet traversed him taking most of the important bits with it and he dropped to the shot but…. As it turned out he didn’t go far but I suspect that a lesser chambering might not have had such an ending.
Not nearly as impressive as the air rifle strike, huh , Fb?
A head shot, though not as easy, usually kills ‘em deader than a body shot.
Same with any animal.
Safer to go body.
Ken.
Foxyboy43
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Hmmm.
Each to their own I guess but air rifles and headshots with any chambering are just not for me - the much larger ( and particularly for my old eyes) preferable centre-mass option with a centre-fire is defo the way to go….
Some of these FAC airguns in bigger cals can reach 200 ftlbs rti mora . Most .25 will do close to 100 ftlbsHmmm.
Each to their own I guess but air rifles and headshots with any chambering are just not for me - the much larger ( and particularly for my old eyes) preferable centre-mass option with a centre-fire is defo the way to go….
kenbro
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If you call the RSPCA about an injured fox they will come and give it a lethal injection.
‘bout 4 years ago when walking a dog I saw a chap I know (With his dog) standing by a fox that had somehow threaded itself into some sheep netting when going over it.
Another guy approached from the opposite direction.
The guy I knew had called the RSPCA and here they were.
I said we could get the fox free and release it. I would hold it by the neck while they got it loose. It’s surprising how easy it is to hold a fox by the neck once you get hold of it.
RSPCA wouldn’t hear of it and jabbed it with a syringe.
It actually peed in fear when we first approached it. It was head down and tail up in the air. No idea how it managed to thread itself like that.
Ken.
kenbro
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Absolutely agree.Hmmm.
Each to their own I guess but air rifles and headshots with any chambering are just not for me - the much larger ( and particularly for my old eyes) preferable centre-mass option with a centre-fire is defo the way to go….
Kb.
In my experience, and that of others of my aquaintance, the RSPCA are the very last people you ever want to get involved when and where the 'welfare' of wild animals in concerned. They seem to make the wrong decision far more often than they make the correct one. Often trying to 'save' those that are beyond help (including invasive species that it's unlawful to release), or euthanising those that could simply be set free from whatever predicament they've got themselves into.
Yup
Im urban and the local RSPCA always have updates on twitter on how they saved a RTA fox which now has 3 legs and needs rehoming somewhere
Yet also Very happy to come and put down 6 cats from the lady down the road who has some mental health issues - no appeal to re-home them
Bo Diddley
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RSPCA lost their way many, many years ago.
Common sense isn't all that common in organisations like that. But they must have got something right because they get an awful lot of money gifted to them
Common sense isn't all that common in organisations like that. But they must have got something right because they get an awful lot of money gifted to them
Smellydog
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Or it's a marker on how twisted society is now!RSPCA lost their way many, many years ago.
Common sense isn't all that common in organisations like that. But they must have got something right because they get an awful lot of money gifted to them
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