Fox baiting station - Ethical? Legal or wot?

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Cheviot said:
Think he was getting a bit stick off people 🤫🤭:tiphat:
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Glad it’s gone - stupid video to put up but in fairness we all make mistakes, even me!
The remaining 9 months old video looks a lot more “presentable” - perhaps even appetising….
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Foxyboy43 said:
Glad it’s gone - stupid video to put up but in fairness we all make mistakes, even me!
The remaining 9 months old video looks a lot more “presentable” - perhaps even appetising….
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I think it is stupid but i take the positive of some things others do and just look at bit harder at what we all do
I had feeders strapped to trees with bits of string
Looked shocking as the feed got trampled in the mud too
- So i have tidied them up and now they look far more professional to any members of the public too

I sometimes leave foxes in piles in the field hedge -because dead foxes attract live foxes - but if found they can upset people too - so i tuck them out of the way or they go in the thick cover now
 
jall55 said:
I think it is stupid but i take the positive of some things others do and just look at bit harder at what we all do
I had feeders strapped to trees with bits of string
Looked shocking as the feed got trampled in the mud too
- So i have tidied them up and now they look far more professional to any members of the public too

I sometimes leave foxes in piles in the field hedge -because dead foxes attract live foxes - but if found they can upset people too - so i tuck them out of the way or they go in the thick cover now
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Yep - perhaps a reminder for all of us - be it how we dispose of foxes, birds or gralloch - a few seconds can make the difference and save a few problems…
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Nickb said:
You seem to have an endless supply.
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Morning Nick
It really is very odd - 95 percent of these are all shot in 1 small field
In fairness i am out lots and the land and surrounding areas are ideal - we are also close to a large village - and have a motorway (bypass) bank by our shoot that runs for miles
The 2 last night were in absolute A1 condition
 
Nickb said:
You seem to have an endless supply.
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I find that, if I put out a few bits every night, within about 4 days of shooting a fox, another one has found it.
About 15 Bakers chicken flavoured Meaty Chunks scattered about at each place seems to work well.
As they find the bits and chew them up, sooner or later they present a broadside shot.
Put out a dead rabbit, and they just grab it and run.
 
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JTO said:
Put out a dead rabbit, and they just grab it and run.
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Chop it up into sections. Even a pigeon I cut into head/neck, 2x breasts, then the body into two pieces, keeps them working for it, especially if you place some under a few clods of turf so they nose this over, roadkill deer carcass is laid out whole.
 
I'm seeing even fewer rabbits than last year this time.
A Roe carcase is usually good for 4 foxes, too big to carry off. The Buzzards and crows finish it off.
 
JTO said:
I find that, if I put out a few bits every night, within about 4 days of shooting a fox, another one has found it.
About 15 Bakers chicken flavoured Meaty Chunks scattered about at each place seems to work well.
As they find the bits and chew them up, sooner or later they present a broadside shot.
Put out a dead rabbit, and they just grab it and run.
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Yes with us its 2/3 days usually - its incredible how many are about - but i suppose thermal has been such an eye opener
 
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My head is now going to emerge into the firing line. I use a bait station. The reasons are as follows:- I use it on a local pheasant shoot because once the partridge are on the ground you cannot drive around looking for foxes. The bait station is at the site of an old rabbit warren, and I place the bait into the rabbit hole and press the ground around the hole down. Often the bait is some bones from a local butcher, but it may be road kill, or a pigeon, or a rabbit, or a crow, or whatever is available. The holes are spread over an area of 50 square yards or so, and nothing is left visible. Once a week I sit about 120 yards away, an hour before dark until an hour after dark. I consider this to be both ethical and practical. I now await incoming fire !
 
old 30-06 said:
My head is now going to emerge into the firing line. I use a bait station. The reasons are as follows:- I use it on a local pheasant shoot because once the partridge are on the ground you cannot drive around looking for foxes. The bait station is at the site of an old rabbit warren, and I place the bait into the rabbit hole and press the ground around the hole down. Often the bait is some bones from a local butcher, but it may be road kill, or a pigeon, or a rabbit, or a crow, or whatever is available. The holes are spread over an area of 50 square yards or so, and nothing is left visible. Once a week I sit about 120 yards away, an hour before dark until an hour after dark. I consider this to be both ethical and practical. I now await incoming fire !
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What you're doing is a far cry from the pictures posted in the YouTube clip.
I don't think anyone could possibly object to your method, which is both discreet and practical.
 
old 30-06 said:
My head is now going to emerge into the firing line. I use a bait station. The reasons are as follows:- I use it on a local pheasant shoot because once the partridge are on the ground you cannot drive around looking for foxes. The bait station is at the site of an old rabbit warren, and I place the bait into the rabbit hole and press the ground around the hole down. Often the bait is some bones from a local butcher, but it may be road kill, or a pigeon, or a rabbit, or a crow, or whatever is available. The holes are spread over an area of 50 square yards or so, and nothing is left visible. Once a week I sit about 120 yards away, an hour before dark until an hour after dark. I consider this to be both ethical and practical. I now await incoming fire !
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Am a great believer in middings/ midden as purely to attract foxs to a specific area by scent and if in winter when foxs on the move if situated in a good location allowing for backstops, prevailing wind and access will pull foxs from afar to spend a little time.
Middlings attracts foxs for various reasons and mostly not to feed but curios of the scents or odour generated and the more rancid the better not needing constant attention and with a little imagination very discreet and legal.
No incoming fire from me and horses for courses.😀 Edit, thought the offending film content demonstrated a great set up spoilt only by presentation of the midding contents but hey ho!
 
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Just to add don’t know if the guy that made the film viewed the “site” as a bait station or midding but was certainly both and attracted foxs to be killed if he was shooting straight so all pretty academic though there is a difference in how and why fox attracted to its death plus environmental issues.
Debate could be had over electric fox caller to manual or to kill it at all and would not be surprised if some form of future legislation
Affords them some protection 🤷🏽‍♂️
 
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boltgun said:
Just to add don’t know if the guy that made the film viewed the “site” as a bait station or midding but was certainly both and attracted foxs to be killed if he was shooting straight so all pretty academic though there is a difference in how and why fox attracted to its death plus environmental issues.
Debate could be had over electric fox caller to manual or to kill it at all and would not be surprised if some form of future legislation
Affords them some protection 🤷🏽‍♂️
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If I recall correctly the now vanished video was titled “How to make a Bait Station”.
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Foxyboy43 said:
If I recall correctly the now vanished video was titled “How to make a Bait Station”.
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Thanks foxy, probably better to have called it “ how not to make a bait station in rural uk” then engage with viewers on spot the deliberate mistake and invite comments. Think there was some quote on the farmer baiting it so all his fault 😂
Next video to be how to make a midding, midden/ bait station and impress pilgrims, perhaps 😀
 
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probably have been better to put a animal welfare spin on the bait station demonstrating how the kind shoot owners had donated game and other goodies to feed impoverished wildlife including buzzards and badgers and later promote some insect life to assist other birds in feeding their young. The nasty foxs were culled in moderation only and for their own good.
 
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