Sometimes I've done this. On a number of occasions I have tried an expensive bullet and chased around and got nowhere.
Regards
JCS
Fox copper bullets.
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Regards
JCS
Have you tried another primer? I know the perceived wisdom is that some cartridges love them (6.5x47 for example). However, my 6 and 6.5x47 both hate them.
It maybe worth a try, although they seem to work well with the 140 and 120 sierras...
The measurement to the lands is 2.761” OAL, I’ve tried 0.031” (2.73”) and 0.071 (2.69”).
regards,
Gixer
It’s a shame you can’t take a hand press to the range with you. Load a batch long and then alter the OAL at the range.
Far easier to reduce the OAL than extend. Plus it allows the barrel to cool between groups.
Just a thought.
Far easier to reduce the OAL than extend. Plus it allows the barrel to cool between groups.
Just a thought.
Steff
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It will definitely change the contents of your wallet
.Seriously, 0.001 steps are nothing but cheating yourself. This sort of variation disappears in the manufacturing tolerances of the bullets and the seating process. Go in 0.010 steps or anything in this range and don‘t make yourself mad.
Solids are usually used for stalking, so they need to fit into the magazine. Further, I back off in the order of. 0.080 to 0.100 from the lands. And I want the case mouth to sit on one of the drive bands. This pretty much determines a technical OAL . And if the bloody thing won‘t shoot then that‘s that. But it usually does.
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Steff
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It was meant for the original poster. A bit tongue in cheek.
Even a Lee hand press that uses normal dies will do then job. They can be had very reasonably.
No need for the special hand dies and arbour press.
JCS,
Your reply is against what I meant. You can’t use standard dies with the arbour press. It’s a whole new setup.
For less than £50 you can take existing dies to the range.
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It was a typo...it is .010 steps.It will definitely change the contents of your wallet
Seriously, 0.001 steps are nothing but cheating yourself. This sort of variation disappears in the manufacturing tolerances of the bullets and the seating process. Go in 0.010 steps or anything in this range and don‘t make yourself mad.
Solids are usually used for stalking, so they need to fit into the magazine. Further, I back off in the order of. 0.080 to 0.100 from the lands. And I want the case mouth to sit on one of the drive bands. This pretty much determines a technical OAL . And if the bloody thing won‘t shoot then that‘s that. But it usually does.
As a side note I calipered the remaining 26 bullets in the box and fox did well, out of those 26 all were the same OAL within .0005” bar 2 which were .001” longer. Not bad!It will definitely change the contents of your wallet
Seriously, 0.001 steps are nothing but cheating yourself. This sort of variation disappears in the manufacturing tolerances of the bullets and the seating process. Go in 0.010 steps or anything in this range and don‘t make yourself mad.
Solids are usually used for stalking, so they need to fit into the magazine. Further, I back off in the order of. 0.080 to 0.100 from the lands. And I want the case mouth to sit on one of the drive bands. This pretty much determines a technical OAL . And if the bloody thing won‘t shoot then that‘s that. But it usually does.
Steff
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Very well. Though, when I speak of OAL I hardly ever mean the absolute value of a random round. My OAL always refers to a ‚reference bullet‘ of a given length. Any other bullet of a different length should produce a cartridge longer or shorter of the same difference.
Finally some results with the Fox 123gr’s....stuck with the 42gr of RS62 and did a test with batches of rounds changing only the seating depth in .010” increments. Looks like these fox’s do like a jump as the shorter the rounds got the more the group tightened up...the speeds are pretty consistent so looks like 2.68” OAL is the winner...
never had to mess around so much with a bullet to get it to group! Not sure if that’s a copper thing or just these!
based on the info from fox the velocity (2650fps) should be fine for way past the ranges I intend to shoot at.
now to test them on a deer or two!
regards,
Gixer
never had to mess around so much with a bullet to get it to group! Not sure if that’s a copper thing or just these!
based on the info from fox the velocity (2650fps) should be fine for way past the ranges I intend to shoot at.
now to test them on a deer or two!
regards,
Gixer
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devon deer stalker
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You can't get much more mobile than one of those, used mine for my Fox loads, brilliant.
Cheers
Richard
ColinBr
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Pretty much what my mate was finding too. Glad you got it sorted.
Worth noting his are TTSX. So looks. Like possibly a copper trait
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