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Yet to recover a solid from something I’ve killed

You guys must be shooting at extended ranges for them to stay inside 🤘

Never got in with Barnes - problematic accuracy (for me.
 
Fab

Yet to recover a solid from something I’ve killed

You guys must be shooting at extended ranges for them to stay inside 🤘

Never got in with Barnes - problematic accuracy (for me.
If the beast drops on the spot, and / or you go to the shot site you can sometimes find where the bullet has hit the ground.

The one below I found under the neck skin of sika / red hybrid shot at less than 100 yards - it was quartering away from me. It is a 140gn RWS HIT bullet from my 7x65R with a back of box MV of 2911 fps, impact at 100 yards in 2700 fps.

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I've found 3 or 4 Barnes with 308 under the skin of stags / spikers on quartering shots a modest ranges (<200yds). Each time the deer has moved <10 yards after the shot. Don't recall even finding one with the 6.5-284 (or on a hind) but many of mine go off whole so there may have been the odd one.
 
Yet to recover a solid from something I’ve killed

All Barnes TTSX 120g in my 6.5x655 are always a clean pass through at normal woodland stalking distances, agreed. Nevertheless they have been effective in all my use cases over 10 years.

You guys must be shooting at extended ranges for them to stay inside

Not in the case of the .375 270g in the image I posted above: it was fired at 60m with an MV of approx 2650fps. [buffalo]

But I think that the point is this: the Barnes claim to deliver very nearly 100% weight retension is validated. Unlike frangible lead-free projectile designs, Barnes does not seem to spall material post strike.
 
Lighter bullets have less momentum than a heavier bullet at the same velocity, so will penetrate less, and possibly not exit.

Whether a bullet will fragment or not is dependent on velocity - these were all from deer, from closer to further ranges left to right:

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You put a carcass through x ray to confirm this


Cup and core fragment and lead particles around the wound tract are evident under x ray

Same with solids - just a hell of a lot less

weigh a recovered bullet

Bet it isn’t the same as when loaded

90% weight retention is usual with solids (unless designed to fragment ) - this particles are in the carcass around the wound channel

I actually have done this more than once - Barnes TSX 180 grain came out at just under 178 grains. I tried it again, and it was slightly more.
The Fox 123 grain monometal didn’t retain quite as much, but it was still above 95%. Hence I speak with a fair degree of confidence on this.
Below is a photo of a recovered Barnes dug out of soft earth bank having passed through fallow. Sadly I’ve another photo somewhere of another one on the scales showing it’s retained weight but I cannot find the thing.
As I posted this I realised this is the one on the scales, but the photo has been cropped so doesn’t show the weight. I’ve an uncropped one see where which I’ll do my best to find.
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I actually have done this more than once - Barnes TSX 180 grain came out at just under 178 grains. I tried it again, and it was slightly more.
The Fox 123 grain monometal didn’t retain quite as much, but it was still above 95%. Hence I speak with a fair degree of confidence on this.
Below is a photo of a recovered Barnes dug out of soft earth bank having passed through fallow. Sadly I’ve another photo somewhere of another one on the scales showing it’s retained weight but I cannot find the thing.
As I posted this I realised this is the one on the scales, but the photo has been cropped so doesn’t show the weight. I’ve an uncropped one see where which I’ll do my best to find.
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I must apologise - this is not the photo I thought it was. This is NOT the recovered Barnes TSX from a fallow. It’s one recovered from a rotten tree trunk which my check zero target was against. It doesn’t accurately represent the point I was trying to make.
 
Hopefully get these test loads shot Thursday 🙏🏼 been sat loaded for a while! Think being self employed it would be easy 🙄 busy time in the equestrian calendar!

Went for 2.955 col as its max length in the metal MDT mag... see how we go! 6.5 prc, N565, 122 grainers
 

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