Fox hunting....assistance/advice required

[CraigBenson]

I have found at least one keeper that decided that he was in charge of land that was nothing to do with his estate. It was the airfield at Little Rissington a few years ago. I was granted permission by Defence Estates to do rabbit shooting there. I was out doing just that, and the keeper came roaring up to me in his land rover and demanded to know how I was and what I was doing on the land. Bearing in mind I'm in the RAF and was in uniform, I thought this attitude a bit off.

He was very irate about the fach that someone had been shooting "HIS" deer on the airfield (it wasn't me!). I asked for some ID, and pointed out that he was trespassing on MOD property, as he didn't have the right ID. Before asking him to leave the airfield I informed him that as the site was MOD property any deer on the land are the property of the crown. He didn't seem pleased.

I never got to the bottom of who had shot the deer, not for the want of trying.

 

[204 Ruger]

I have found at least one keeper that decided that he was in charge of land that was nothing to do with his estate. It was the airfield at Little Rissington a few years ago. I was granted permission by Defence Estates to do rabbit shooting there. I was out doing just that, and the keeper came roaring up to me in his land rover and demanded to know how I was and what I was doing on the land. Bearing in mind I'm in the RAF and was in uniform, I thought this attitude a bit off.

He was very irate about the fach that someone had been shooting "HIS" deer on the airfield (it wasn't me!). I asked for some ID, and pointed out that he was trespassing on MOD property, as he didn't have the right ID. Before asking him to leave the airfield I informed him that as the site was MOD property any deer on the land are the property of the crown. He didn't seem pleased.

I never got to the bottom of who had shot the deer, not for the want of trying.

Nice one, good to be in the right and send him off packing like that!!!

 

[Ye old stalker]

Its time you lot stopped fighting between your selfs " my sports more important than yours" the antis just love it your doing the job for them . I have spent a life time controlling wild life of all species ( LEGALLY) over 40 years digging with terriers ( 25yrs as hunt terrier man ) and would still work terriers if the old back and knees would let me , I have used snares and still do if i have to but most of my fox control now days is with the rifle , also had good fox killing lurcher's. And until recently farmed sheep and free range poultry , so no what its like to lose lambs to foxes and badgers. So instead of calling other forms of hunting on a open forum try thinking before you open up, if we don't stick together you wont be able to shoot fish hunt or anything . rant over good hunting to you all Ye old stalker

 

[204 Ruger]

Went back to the same spot last week....Fox in the middle of the field...Couldnt resist!!!! Saves the hunt a job!!!

 

[bogtrotter]

My need to kill something, clearly you do not know me, or anything about the countryside in general, maybe your'e "just a stalker"...................If you knew your arse from your elbow , you would know it 's impossible to shoot out the fox population, as was demonstrated by earlier attempts to clear the land for the purposes of disease control, or maybe someone imported the fox to restock? anyway, what is your knowledge base chum?

Impossble to shoot out the fox population? damn been at it for 45 years thought I was nearly there

 

[bogtrotter]

cant beat a good dig

True up to a point, but I will only dig as a last resort foxes tend to use the same holes year after year I find that digging buxxers the dens and have to spend more time looking for new cubing holes.

 

[bogtrotter]

God, if they ever ban snaring we will be over run with the blighters. I have no issue with hunting or lamping, both are a tool, but if you want to control foxes the only effective way is a proper snaring program. Now that is a real art/craft.

Aye but how many people know how to set a wire these days.

 

[eddie]

no no this cant be right, you mean to tell me that the hunt are trying to conserve foxes so as they can chase them around ! but they all told the world that they do it for vermin control purposes and that its much more humane than shooting and snaring

That hunting foxes with hounds is bloody cruel, if you ask me. Regards, Ed.

 

[timbrayford]

Whatever opinion you may have on hunting you have everything to gain by taking a diplomatic stance, permission to mop up surplus foxes is much more likely to go to known hunt supporters.

Please take great care to ensure that any land occupier holds the sporting rights before setting out with your rifle, if it transpires that you are shooting without the proper legal permissions you may be committing an armed trespass which will almost certainly lead to revocation of your FAC and possibly prosecution.

 

[204 Ruger]

Whatever opinion you may have on hunting you have everything to gain by taking a diplomatic stance, permission to mop up surplus foxes is much more likely to go to known hunt supporters.

Please take great care to ensure that any land occupier holds the sporting rights before setting out with your rifle, if it transpires that you are shooting without the proper legal permissions you may be committing an armed trespass which will almost certainly lead to revocation of your FAC and possibly prosecution.

WOW. This is an old thread. Totally agree a diplomatic approach works best. Following this incident I contacted the game keeper adn haev resolved our differences. I also now shoot the vermin on the adjacent farm which is also part of the estate.

On this particular occasion there was no risk of armed tresspass. The farmer has the agred legal right to allow 2 people to control the vermin on his land. The confusion came becaseu the land owner doesnt class Fox as vermin...for obvious reasons!!!! This is an old rule there that was pre-ban adn one that the farmer had not mentioend to me because he had thought that due to the ban shooting them would be fine. All good now.