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Iwrch said:
Thank you, Alex. I will also dare to suggest that had I stayed with the Barnes Mr Ginger would have been down and out before his does were at the hedge.
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That's the thing, all you can do is do your best, the next one could be completely different. 180gn is a big old lump to be stopped by a roe I suppose but it's completely dependent on circumstances.

The shot was in the kill zone, it dropped within an acceptable perimeter and it was humane, so is there really a problem here?

A lighter bullet up against the same factors.... invisible blade of grass, twig or strand of wire and you could be looking at a different result.

Deer down, accurate shot, concise follow up and humane kill = result and a great thread and a big well done! :D

Alex
 
Back to reality with Alex.

As someone who spends much more time thinking about stalking than doing any, I had neglected to notice that the animal was hit in the right place and died quickly; notwithstanding the behaviour of the bullet.

As I remarked, bullets can do all sorts of odd things, and if as you say this one slipped between ribs on the way in, it perhaps didn't get the inital clout on the nose to start the peeling-back.


In any case, a perfectly satisfactory outcome, all told.:)
 
Just for comparisom between one that ran and one that didn't, here's one that didn't.

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Here's one of mine that went straight down at 120 yards in woodland with a .243 87gn Hpt Bt
 
And here's some that didn't drop to shot or even bother to look my way because they know I am now retired and not allowed to shoot on that land :mad:!!!

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...as a relatively inexperienced stalker comapred to a vast number of you guys, I found this thread very interesting.

Why? Well a number of the responses gave a better idea of what type of reaction you may see/expect for a bullet strike in a particular area.Very educational!:-D (....and I still believe I've a LOT to learn as I go along).

So - perhaps more 'deerstalking cluedo' might not be a bad idea...?

Regards,

Reverend Green, sitting in the kitchen with a length of lead pipe :shock:
 
Seconded, a forum with member led 'what happened here' stories would be great for us 'young uns.' Admin - Any chance?
 
i'm glad i waited until after the explanation as my guess was nowhere near the mark, i was going to post that the deer had been shot from both sides at exactly the same time, the slightly larger hole made by a ballistic tip and the smaller by a hollow point, both bullets enter without touching a rib and collided head on in the left ventricle of the heart and as no bone had been contacted on the way in there was very little bullet deformation and the ballistic tip wedged into the hollow point thus immediately canceling the energy of both bullets, the deer continued to graze for about 1/2 an hour until the slow trickle of blood loss finally took its toll

mike
 
I like that, Mike R. :lol:

Given that the strangest things do happen, your explanation is perfectly plausible in all but one respect. Bonus points for anyone who can spot Mike's one impossible assumption.
 
MIKE R said:
i'm glad i waited until after the explanation as my guess was nowhere near the mark, i was going to post that the deer had been shot from both sides at exactly the same time, the slightly larger hole made by a ballistic tip and the smaller by a hollow point, both bullets enter without touching a rib and collided head on in the left ventricle of the heart and as no bone had been contacted on the way in there was very little bullet deformation and the ballistic tip wedged into the hollow point thus immediately canceling the energy of both bullets, the deer continued to graze for about 1/2 an hour until the slow trickle of blood loss finally took its toll

mike
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And i am glad i "DONT" Stalk in your area "SHOT FROM BOTH SIDES AT THE SAME TIME" :scared:
 
Surely the holes were too far back to have touched the heart.......?

Is the impossible assumption that at the precise point of meeting both bullets had the same energy vectored in opposite directions? Given the arguement about callibre and bullet type on the ballistics page there is no chance that 2 people would have the exactly right set up to make this happen.
 
Presumably either one pushes the other back out the hole it came in and the melded metal plops on the floor beside the now a little confused buck (a very unlikely course of action) or more likely the energy difference causes a glancing blow, serious carnage inside and exit wounds that could be anywhere.....

I wonder if an overpressure might be caused by the meeting of metal which might push a lot of insides through the holes to the outside?
 
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