Gun Cabinet & Location

[bottletopbill]

Don't waste you time and money we all buy a five gun cabinet and have to change it later on.

 

[Len the dog]

I started with a humble three gun cabinet for an even humbler collection of one gun. I now have a combined stated capacity of 19 guns between three cabinets and I’m not far off sneaking a fourth cabinet past the boss.

 

[phildsmith69]

Buy the biggest cabinet you can. I have a 5 gun cab and wished i'd gone for something bigger already.

 

[bottletopbill]

That's the next trick sneaking bits in when you keep buying different scopes and guns and all the other bits you are going to need.
Please don't think you wont need the bits.
Yes you will ask any one on this site.

 

[f17ant]

Buy the biggest cabinet you can. I have a 5 gun cab and wished i'd gone for something bigger already.

Hahaha

 

[HistoricBore]

Also remember that lofts get VERY hot and also VERY cold - not good for ammunition.
Also keep your guns in dedicated dry simple slips to prevent cabinet damage from all those sharp edges!

HB

 

[f17ant]

Thank you for all your replies, I’m thinking not to bother with the loft anymore the cupboard underneath the stairs or the cupboard in the box room will probably be best

 

[JTO]

Again perfectly legal, but some FEOs do not like lofts as the 'buggeration factor' may suggest that you will not be arsed to clamber up and down there, every time you need a firearm.

= My first thought.

 

[f17ant]

= My first thought.

Makes sense

 

[JTO]

Not sure it would be a good idea to take the back out of a kitchen cabinet if it means fixing the steel gun cabinet to a cold solid wall. Insulation and condensation!

 

[Greenmist]

Thank you for all your replies, I’m thinking not to bother with the loft anymore the cupboard underneath the stairs or the cupboard in the box room will probably be best

This is a good plan, then those spaces gradually become yours, the cupboard under the stairs can also store boots bags jackets, fishing rods, even better the box room, which then becomes your reloading room. And its all police approved so your other half can't oppose the idea

 

[timbrayford]

Your obligation under the Firearms Act is to keep S1 firearms and ammunition secure, that is all. FEOs may obsess about dismantling guns, keeping bits of them and ammunition separate but that is not in itself a legal requirement. However, a competent FEO will be looking at your arrangements from a burglar's perspective. e.g. is your house easy to break into? is your cabinet visible (v.bad if so from outside)? is it easy to remove? Alarms & locks etc. The point about inaccessible and areas prone to condensation is well made, ultimately the security will fail if it is inconvenient to use.

 

[Stalker62]

Your obligation under the Firearms Act is to keep S1 firearms and ammunition secure, that is all. FEOs may obsess about dismantling guns, keeping bits of them and ammunition separate but that is not in itself a legal requirement.

Tell that to my FEO.

The conditions he imposed on my storage of DG ammunition was horrendous...

 

[Len the dog]

This is a good plan, then those spaces gradually become yours, the cupboard under the stairs can also store boots bags jackets, fishing rods, even better the box room, which then becomes your reloading room. And its all police approved so your other half can't oppose the idea

The obvious next step then is wait until swmbo is out and fit a steel door to the box room and bars to the windows. Hey presto, no cabinet needed, just some fancy display racks.

 

[VSS]

The obvious next step then is wait until swmbo is out and fit a steel door to the box room and bars to the windows. Hey presto, no cabinet needed, just some fancy display racks.

I do like your way of thinking.

 

[ColinJ]

Tell that to my FEO.

The conditions he imposed on my storage of DG ammunition was horrendous...







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Careful, there are some on here who will believe you!

 

[Stalker62]

Careful, there are some on here who will believe you!

Then perhaps they should not hunt DG...

 

[f17ant]

Your obligation under the Firearms Act is to keep S1 firearms and ammunition secure, that is all. FEOs may obsess about dismantling guns, keeping bits of them and ammunition separate but that is not in itself a legal requirement. However, a competent FEO will be looking at your arrangements from a burglar's perspective. e.g. is your house easy to break into? is your cabinet visible (v.bad if so from outside)? is it easy to remove? Alarms & locks etc. The point about inaccessible and areas prone to condensation is well made, ultimately the security will fail if it is inconvenient to use.

Both cupboards touch a external wall so will be securely attached and both cupboards you cannot see from the outside, I do have alarms and cctv too

 

[fixedwheel]

Not sure it would be a good idea to take the back out of a kitchen cabinet if it means fixing the steel gun cabinet to a cold solid wall. Insulation and condensation!

Well, 3mm hardboard sure wouldn't give enough support to mount the safe to. Or offer much in the way of insulation either. If you are relying on the kitchen cabinets as dry lining, then you have enough other issues to worry about.

If the room is a reasonable temperature, then the contents of the cabinet are at ambient. 4 bolts into the wall aren't going to wick much cold into the cabinet. Or heat out of the room.

 

[fixedwheel]

Your obligation under the Firearms Act is to keep S1 firearms and ammunition secure, that is all.

Tell that to my FEO.

The conditions he imposed on my storage of DG ammunition was horrendous...

Easiest way is to politely ask, in writing or email, which section of the government guidance s/he is referring to.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/953881/Firearms_Security_Manual_2020.pdf

Sections 2.1 & 2.2 cover most of it. Sec 2.2 says "may", it doesn't say "should", and it most definitely doesn't say "must"