Gun owner in court for having more ammunition than allowed

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Gun owner in court for having more ammunition than allowed



Anyone subscribe to the East Lothian echo or have better Google skills than me and can find out about this story

How much ammo are we talking over allocation?
A few rounds? A few hundred ?

How did it get found out?

Feels heavy-handed treating it like a criminal offense rather than as a failure to comply with the terms of FAC and thus losing it... unless there is more to it

 

[Discombobulated_1606]

It would seem that they found he held 298 rounds when he had permission for 250...

 

[weblyish]

It would seem that they found he held 298 rounds when he had permission for 250...

Seems very harsh to take that to court

Did you find a link to the full story?

 

[Discombobulated_1606]

Seems very harsh to take that to court

Did you find a link to the full story?

It allowed me to see the text for a few seconds before the pay wall loaded, so I screenshotted it... but I can't work out how to attach them!

He was let off with "being admonished" as the sheriff felt it was a genuine error.

 

[Bowland blades]

The devil might well be in the detail perhaps ? The only real risks are 1. is the person supplying ammo to criminals ? A standard brick of 22LR say alone is 500 rounds and i don't think any criminal has ever managed to fire so many ? Many UK shooters have allowances a lot higher than the mentioned 500 rounds .
I don't remember ever having an FEO have a count up , So i guess this could be the tip of the Iceberg .
some competitive shooters do have very, very high amounts to hold

 

[long_range_rob]

On another matter……

Went on a fishing expedition and caught a minnow

 

[Jura]

 

[timbrayford]

The ethos behind the ammunition restrictions was to prevent citizens acquiring the necessary 100k plus of rounds with which to overthrow KGV. Totally out dated these days, neither revolutionaries nor organised crime gangs bother with using the s.1process

 

[Rake Aboot]

Local to me.
It mentions another matter no longer in front of the courts. Suspect another matter arose so his cabinet got a good looking at.
It was accepted it was an error and not a deliberate thing.

 

[csl]

Let's just say 'X' people are staying in a cottage overnight... and all shoot .270. They counted up the total .270s and found it was more than all of them had on their licenses.

Who fault was it?

Were the extra rounds left by accident on a previous trip? Are they 'rejected'/not to be used/blank? Maybe someone purposely planted them?

There is any multitude of things it could be but it should be the police's primary focus to make sure they don't 'chuck them away' if they have a handful of ~50 extra, in my opinion.

 

[cjm1066]

If he was given the extra Ammo by a relative presumably it wasn't on a FAC?

Has his FAC been revoked?

Is there more to this story than in the paper?

 

[levigsp]

It has happened before with only one live round over the limit, just google Kevin Grant, Caithness.

 

[HonestJohn]

Who cares! slow news day.

But yes, maybe like speeding traps, a % buffer should be given for things like accidentally loading a few too many, discovering a batch is bad and keeping them aside instead of throwing in the bin, etc. say, 10% tolerance for such would make sense. However, in fairness, I think most feo’s would turn a blind eye and say don’t do it again. The ones who get prosecuted are the ones where the police probably have an underlying reason to ‘want’ them lose their license (other behaviours, etc).

 

[VSS]

There but for the grace of God...!

Does anyone actually count their ammo, other than once every five years, just before the FEO visit for your renewal?
I doubt it.
You know what your imposed limit is, and you know roughly how much you've got, give or take a box or two, and if the two are relatively close you don't worry about it.
That's just real life.

 

[disco_ike]

The police were there for another reason. One thinks maybe there was something else they were there for and this was a secondary outcome from that visit and they decided to enforce given whatever else was going on. If they were there to revoke or remove they may have seen this as further evidence of issues so by taking it to court they cement the non return…..

I don’t know just surmising

 

[Dave_45]

It has happened before with only one live round over the limit, just google Kevin Grant, Caithness.

I had a quick Google , drink driving too

 

[enfieldspares]

The ethos behind the ammunition restrictions was to prevent citizens acquiring the necessary 100k plus of rounds with which to overthrow KGV. Totally out dated these days, neither revolutionaries nor organised crime gangs bother with using the s.1process

Correct! I still have my late father's 1937 FAC. Somewhat dilapidated though. And that has....it is somewhere up in the attic so I can't readily check...a maximum amount to purchase of either one hundred or two hundred rounds.

 

[Feugh]

There but for the grace of God...!

Does anyone actually count their ammo, other than once every five years, just before the FEO visit for your renewal?
I doubt it.
You know what your imposed limit is, and you know roughly how much you've got, give or take a box or two, and if the two are relatively close you don't worry about it.
That's just real life.

Last time I renewed my FAC every single round was counted.

 

[cjm1066]

Pragmatic comment from FEO at renewal, we won't count your ammo is if you have more than allowed you will have hidden it.

 

[Feugh]

Pragmatic comment from FEO at renewal, we won't count your ammo is if you have more than allowed you will have hidden it.

Obviously my feo did not credit me with that much intelligence