"Here in Alsace, things are a little bit different."

Prologue:

Once upon a time, PM’s granny had a house right at the end of the Munster Valley in Alsace, just before the goat pastures started. In the river Fecht next to the house, PM caught his first trout which started him on a slippery slope. Coincidentally, she died the year the Simson drilling that features in this tale was made in Suhl. In the intervening years, the Internet was invented with its’ hunting forums enabling new friends to be made in a way that was impossible before, the house at the end of the valley crumbled and was demolished, but online rentals came along, and so PM’s family returned to the village for a holiday which, for the first time, included hunting.

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The village, the two churches, the darker hills at the back right being the setting for this adventure.


Episode 1: the old “Platzbock”.

It was the second morning of my much anticipated holiday in Alsace, and therefore I had set the alarm for 4.30am. I crept out of the side door of the chalet into the darkness all dressed up in my finest green, laced up my boots and grabbed my Simson drilling which had yet to be used on deer. In the absolute silence, I heard my friend D’s Land Rover at the end of the lane and we set up further down the valley, past the last village which used to be a lumberjack and charcoal burners’ settlement, and up the slope on the forest tracks towards the crest, just under the skiing pistes 1000m up in the Vosges. It wasn’t August yet so only roe bucks and boar were in season. Before dawn, around 5.30am, we sat in a wooden hut on stilts overlooking a steep dip on the mountainside, hoping boar would come to the automatic feeder that drops a kilo of maize every day. This is partly done to keep them away from the crops below the forest, partly to offer more chances of actually staying on top of the numbers in these dark, dense woods.

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The sun rises 1000m up.

The sun rose, the boar didn’t oblige, so we set off on a stalk on a rising forest path round the mountain, glassing in front and up and down the slopes between the fir and the ash trees. Around 6.30, we spotted a doe around 50m up a 30 degree slope, who was soon joined by a decent six pointer slightly higher up. “If you can, take that one, he’s fine” whispered D. “Do you think you can shoot him from here?”. I declined and opted to stalk in closer, so we went down the track, and started quietly climbing diagonally up, hiding behind a slight ridge in the terrain. The buck spotted something was up, barked, ran further up the slope, turned, barked again, a few more steps. I reached a diagonal tree trunk which with the sticks provided a solid rest for the drilling. I calmed my breathing from the climb and excitement, slid the manual cocking lever forward, found the buck in the crosshairs (the red dot battery is dead!). He ran up a little more, turned again, BANG! Off went the 7x65R round, and the buck vanished. D had been watching him through his binoculars. He turned to me and with a huge smile said “Waidmannsheil! I saw him roll over, congratulations on your first Alsatian buck!”. “Waidmannsdank, and thanks for making this possible”. We gave the buck ten minutes then went along the path round the mountain to retrieve it from above. D broke a branch off a tree, snapped it in two, placed one in the deer’s mouth, gave one to me. The church bells rang through the woods from the village below: 7am. Whatever else happened that fortnight, this experience was already enough to make it an unforgettable holiday. We placed the tag on the bug, gralloched it, and examined its teeth: worn completely flat, probably ten years old, D was very happy with the result. He gave me the kidneys, heart and liver which traditionally go to the hunter in Alsace, the carcass being sold to help finance the association that has the hunting lease for 9 years at a time. This is a completely different setup from everywhere else in France as it's derived from the legislation in place when Alsace was part of the German Empire before WW1. Because as Eric Cantona says, things are different here.

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A first note on bullet placement though: although the buck was stone dead, the shot was high and had smashed the spine. It was my first time shooting on a steep slope and I forgot to aim lower than I do on flat ground. Lesson learned for another time.
 
The weight of that stag, after you'd gutted it right? Hard to get a sense of the size of it, without a rifle in the photo.

Very different looking animal in the head in the first photo, to what I'm used to. Fine timber! Looks like that left front leg was properly broken. I'm curious to know where the animal was hit and what the bullet did after, did it exit? Did it run (or hobble) far?

Wonderful story from a wonderful part of the world with its own distinctive history, customs and rules. Thanks for posting.
Yes, 130kg after gralloching. As a point of comparison, the heaviest they've shot was 155. D intercepted this one as part of a group of three that were heading back down to cover after a night of raiding the cow pastures above. This is a serious problem as all the cattle farmers here are producing AOC Munster cheese, so to keep the label, the cows must be exclusively fed on the local grass, they can't use external feed. This year has been dry, so quite poor for grass, therefore also milk and resulting cheese. So the farmers are not happy with red deer eating 20kg of precious grass a day each, and the chap was very happy to see this one shot.

As for bullet placement, it was shot in front of the shoulder as it was quartering forward slightly, there was no exit wound, a bit of green in the gralloch. It rolled down the hill, over the path and came to a stop against that helpfully placed boulder. From having held the legs during the gralloch, dragged the thing up a slope, pushed it into a car boot and hung it up in the larder, that leg wasn't at all broken, although it does look that way.
AWS
 
Lovely write ups, and glad the new drilling is working well. I love the 7x65r. Off to Austria in a couple of weeks for a little mountain hunting myself. Can’t wait!
Oh nice, good luck! What are you going after? The drilling works very well but the direct trigger is too heavy. There's an adjustment screw but I can't find a screwdriver that fits it. When you squeeze the trigger, you're waiting for it to surprise you when it goes off, and it just doesn't, so you find yourself squeezing a bit harder to take it over the edge. That contributes to the slightly duff shot placement in the field I think, although it's fine on the range. I'm going to use the set trigger in the meantime. It's easy to remove if you change your mind, especially as you can cock and uncock the rifle barrel manually, so safe enough.
 
Respect for cycling through that. I see a lot of gluttons for punishment riding over the mountains on their bikes there and feel for them. Have another gratuitous boar and drilling picture:
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Ahem...… the thought of me dressed in moist lycra on a bicycle is not one I or anyone I know would relish, I can hear the sniggering already, happily I was on a motorbike - one of America's finest, but many thanks for more gratuitous shots of rifle and beast:tiphat:
 
Ahem...… the thought of me dressed in moist lycra on a bicycle is not one I or anyone I know would relish, I can hear the sniggering already, happily I was on a motorbike - one of America's finest

Ah, I see! have you by any chance stopped for a break at the "famous" Breit's Bar in Breitenbach ("Ambiance biker/rétro").
 
Good stuff PM and as I've said before, much respect for your unflinching honestly. Something I fear all too many members of this site will find outside their comfort zone. That's assuming they get as far as reading your well written story that took no little effort to post.

Well it was an entirely different type of shooting from lowland, flat English shooting. All the shots are off sticks from a slope, up or down, and on an unfamiliar animal in one case. I've shot a few deer now but I'm still very much learning, and this is a new rifle too. D was using the Stable Sticks rather than the dual sticks I use and he says they were a revelation, although they take practice to get used to. That may be something worth looking into.

Are you shooting this year's BSRC Chamois competition with your drilling?

K

First, I have to try and make that day... But also, I haven't yet had a chance to work up a load for this rifle, I'm using RWS KS factory rounds, at about 3 quid a pop. I could do one course of fire with the round nosed ones that the rifle didn't like so much though.
 
Well it was an entirely different type of shooting from lowland, flat English shooting. All the shots are off sticks from a slope, up or down, and on an unfamiliar animal in one case. I've shot a few deer now but I'm still very much learning, and this is a new rifle too. D was using the Stable Sticks rather than the dual sticks I use and he says they were a revelation, although they take practice to get used to. That may be something worth looking into.



First, I have to try and make that day... But also, I haven't yet had a chance to work up a load for this rifle, I'm using RWS KS factory rounds, at about 3 quid a pop. I could do one course of fire with the round nosed ones that the rifle didn't like so much though.
Noted so best not and give yourself a fighting chance by deploying your trusty Stutzen.

K
 
Well it was an entirely different type of shooting from lowland, flat English shooting. All the shots are off sticks from a slope, up or down, and on an unfamiliar animal in one case. I've shot a few deer now but I'm still very much learning, and this is a new rifle too. D was using the Stable Sticks rather than the dual sticks I use and he says they were a revelation, although they take practice to get used to. That may be something worth looking into.



First, I have to try and make that day... But also, I haven't yet had a chance to work up a load for this rifle, I'm using RWS KS factory rounds, at about 3 quid a pop. I could do one course of fire with the round nosed ones that the rifle didn't like so much though.

PM, if I'm shooting it I can try and help with logistics. (not sure if I am shooting it yet)

Try William Evans at Bisley for some Geco 165gr stuff. They are reasonably priced and I've found conistent with good performance on game in my 7x64 so probably worth a box for a try out?
 
Well you certainly have come a long way since you started on your stalking journey. I still remember your outings with me when you initially started out. Good to see how you have progressed and are enjoying the sport and memories being made for you. Well done, you are a credit to the stalking world Lawrence.
 
Ah, I see! have you by any chance stopped for a break at the "famous" Breit's Bar in Breitenbach ("Ambiance biker/rétro").
Thanks for the suggestion, yet another on the things-to-do list the next time we are touring the area, was hoping to get to Moussey at some date in the future which is not a million miles away from the Munster so may do one of our meandering trips once all the Br**it stuff is over with!:)
 
Well you certainly have come a long way since you started on your stalking journey. I still remember your outings with me when you initially started out. Good to see how you have progressed and are enjoying the sport and memories being made for you. Well done, you are a credit to the stalking world Lawrence.
Thanks Malcolm, that's very kind of you to say. I suppose I enjoy it and treasure the memories all the more because it was so hard and took so long to get into. But I also try and bring in those around me (mostly through cooking!) to show that hunting is normal, environmentally responsible, not full of bloodthirsty lunatics. But as I said, I'm still very much learning.
 
PM, if I'm shooting it I can try and help with logistics. (not sure if I am shooting it yet)

Try William Evans at Bisley for some Geco 165gr stuff. They are reasonably priced and I've found conistent with good performance on game in my 7x64 so probably worth a box for a try out?
Thanks Mike, let me know if you're planning to go, although another thing that's happened since I started stalking is that the arrival of Pine Martine prompted the acquisition of a car. Which presumably means I can use it for leisure purposes although that's not explicitly stated.... I have everything I need to start reloading 7x65R, except so far time to hang around the BSRC range waiting for the barrel to cool down 25 times.
 
Love the Vosges manage to get there most years and have been woken a few times by gunshots, was the view of the Alps from the Ballon d'Alsace? Here's a poor shot of the local Chamois coming down in the morning, its bodged using my phone and a monocular but you get the idea
 

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