Hik Habrok HQ35L First Thoughts

Used on a couple of outings now so probably enough for my first thoughts.

Weight and size wise these are about the same as a pair of RF 8 or 10 x42 Binos. Maybe a bit heavier. The barrels are a decent width and you can hold them nicely in one hand without strain. Because of the amount of functions on these things there are 6 buttons for control meaning in theory you need both hands on occasion to operate. An example of this would be spot target, ping range with left hand and then cycle to the optical channel with the right hand. I think this will take a bit of getting used to as I have been using a thermal with my left hand and left eye only for many years now.

I find the 3x base mag a touch high for walking and stalking. I would prefer 2 or 2.5 base mag to be honest. Probably because that’s what I am used to. The HH model with the lower sensor has 4 x base mag I think which must be hideous for anything other than static long range spotting.

Performance wise just like a Hik Aplex scope won’t match glass in daylight the optical channel on these isn’t anything like as good as my Zeiss RF’s in daylight. First half hour of deer shooting light and the last half hour though and suddenly the optical channel comes into its own. When high German glass can just see blobs these show you animals with a decent amount of detail in colour as well. I haven’t really tested the legs on the B&W NV option much yet as I have found the colour option more than enough for deer stalking hours and beyond.

Thermally it seems to be about the same performance as my Hik Falcon FQ35. This isn’t a slight in anyway as I and many others really rate the performance or the FQ series of Falcons. I would say though that the image is stretched very slightly to fill the larger screen. Hard to describe and it isn’t distorted or anything it just seems slightly larger pixel wise.

Battery wise the first set lasted I think somewhere between 5 or 6 hours. With the RF function turning off at 25% battery. No idea why they would do this to be honest. As it’s supplied with 4 batteries (2 sets) I guess a run time of 10-12 hours would be possible. These figures were with the units auto standby disabled as well because I found this annoying. Probably just me on this feature though.

With regards to the range finder there isn’t a great deal to say other than it works. I haven’t pushed the distances out beyond 400m ish at the moment but it didn’t struggle to ping items at this range.

I think the big question for a device like this is does it replace the standard bino and thermal combo? Well the answer is both yes and no. As a thermal this device obviously delivers, but optically it isn’t a match for glass. Unless that is the light is poor or it’s completely dark. In these circumstances it outperforms glass easily. I think personally I need to spend some more time with the unit to make a final opinion.

Below are some videos that I downloaded from earlier stalks. As always the actual image though the device seems better, but it gives you a decent idea. Sorry in advance for the poor cinematic experience I was using the device for the first time, while actually staking deer.

The video with the fallow was taken in woodland about 25 mins into first shooting light. The two roe deer clips were taken once the sun had come up.





 
Thanks for this.
I'm in two minds at the moment whether to push the button on these, my biggest gripe with swapping from thermal to glass at 1st or last light is finding what I have seen with the TI with my glass, this seems to solve it, but in full light I don't think we are quite there yet.
 
Really impressed with mine so far.
As was said above, the actual image through the device is much better than the recorded one.
I just put a pair of aftermarket 3400mAh battreries in it, while the original were on charge, and after 4 hours of play dropped two bars only... nothing like the condor.
I think HikMicro are finnaly one step ahead of Pulsar with those...
 
I would like to add the videos your watching will be heavily compressed by youtube , and will be nothing compared to looking through actual viewfinder , you really need to look through a pair there really really very good !
 
I know what your saying buddy, i suppose its just down to how many videos they post they have to fit them all in somehow .
My brother in law has a pair coming today/tomorrow ( he hopes )
I have had a quick peep through a pair and was properly impressed , well to my eyes at least .
 
I worry that in low light, if both eyes are adjusted to an LCD display I wouldn't see a thing through my riflescope. At the moment I use one eye for the spotter and the other shooting. Does no-one incorporate auto display brightness into a thermal?
 
Any further updates on Habrok battery life yet. I don’t get why LRF shuts down well within battery life. My EL Range binoculars work for years on a puddle little battery.
 
Habrok HQ35L review.

Battery run time is just short of 4hrs. A recent firmware will increase this as the iluminator and lrf functions have been improved. Due to this I suspect you will get just over 4hrs. Remember if you constantly run the ir and lrf you will reduce the run time. In addition when you get to the one bar you will not be able to use these two functions.
On a few occasions I accidentally slid the battery compartment to the unlocked position. On one occasion the flap securing the battery did come completely free from the chassis. I'm pleased it was secure with the tie. I feel that when wearing gloves this issue may arise more often. I'm not sure if another level of security could be attached to the battery housing. Overall very pleased with the unit when it came to run time.

Ease of use its very accommodating, eye pieces are great and the rubber eye cups are just right in regards to their flexibility. The ocular lenses were easily focusable to suit my eye’s. I did find that you can easily knock the eye pieces either inwards or outwards. The resistance could do with increasing which may reduce this. Buttons are set out nicely and in the right order.

Clarity again no problem fov is very good and will suit centrefire to air rifle users. In regards to pallets I only used black and white hot. It's a good idea that you can disable the other pallets. Nice feature that when you lower thr device it enters standby and when you raise the device it activates. The screen is large and clear and offers a nice viewing platform. I used to suffer terrible eye burn with monoculars not a problem with this set, that's a massive positive. The menus are clear and simple. As with lots of other users of this type of equipment I don't see the point of adding compass and inclination displays. Yes you can disable them but for me unnecessary. There is also the option to view you're recordings via the unit so need to connect or download.

Optical channel in total darkness is really good its probably the best ive seen by far. Having owned the falcon FQ50 I was really surprised that this 35mm version matched the thermal capability of the falcon. Another advantage was the increased FOV which will suit woodland stalking. I did find that the focusing rings were not as smooth as they good be. The digital channel ring was especially notchy. Digital nv using the ir is average. I would say it's decent out to 80 yards. The ir beam doesn't fill the bottom section of the screen. It does on flood but for me it would be a good idea to have the illuminator work in all axis.
I was intrigued to see how the unit could deal with a more powerful laser type illuminator. The unit had no issues and I easily could see features out passed 300 yards, the image was very clear. Hik please boost the power of the ir the unit can cope and its really quite good. Hik are now looking into this in regards of power output.Having the three channels is a massive advantage. It comes into its own in poor thermal conditions. Having the opportunity to have thermal and digital option together on one screen is the way forward. The digital aspect is very handy when you have a partial thermal outline. Had a few occasions when you pick something up in a ditch or lying down. Switching to the digital channel you can then confirm what the source was. The daytime channel is good for a unit of this type. Its more than capable on my stalking permission. It's not going to beat glass that's obvious. However in low light the optical channel is better than glass.

When you use the lrf with the illuminator you can clearly see the laser splash. This is perfectly in line with lrf aiming box. I went from 12 yards to 850 with no issues. In regards to the lrf it would be good to have a continuous mode and a single mode (recent firmware update has given more options in this area).This has no been introduced in the latest firmware. The flashing range on screen display was s a bit distracting but not now.

It would be interesting to see how a 50mm version would compare. I feel its a trade off with range and fov but having the choice would be a good idea.

The size weight and design of the device is just right the unit fitted nicely into my bino chest harness. HIK I would consider providing a bespoke harness and pouch.

Overall I was really impressed struggling to find any real negatives. For the price it's really impressive especially when you compare it to other bino set ups, some of which are double the price. The device can be used right through the day and night in all environments and in all scenarios. Big thumbs up for me and I'm sure with some tweaks and firmware updates the device will get better and better.
 
The one negative I have found is the optical channel isn’t really suitable for proper deer management. It’s fine if you just want to muller muntjac or fallow but if you need more detail for management of deer then it isn’t suitable. For example judging head quality on bucks its extremely difficult. Judging between a good or a poor pricket is also a challenge. In my view these are out too early and the optical channel should have been fitted with the 4K gear from the latest Alpex. I am guessing though that there will be a Habrok 4K before the end of the year.
 
Well I did ask !!! :)

Thanks for taking the time guys.
Warts n all.
There’s no doubt in my opinion Hick have cracked the image / software side of this game. They should have really considering they are probably the biggest manufacturer of consumer optical and thermal surveillance equipment by far. Having been OEM for many others for years. They have in house repair facilities in the country’s the sell to. Pulsar just write of their units after the warranty runs out. TJ say there not interested in repairing them.
I have been able to compare with top end military units and besides the magnification ability along with range finding and other specific systems there getting there. When you consider there cooled sensors which even if we could afford them we couldn’t buy them anyway.
I’m hoping they will see the light and drop the 18650 format for main power supply to their units soon. It’s really a shame my 8 year old Helion battery still lasts 7 hrs and has been used several times a week every week Even more during the Badger cull seasons.
I’ve not seen any real criticism of their other units using their own batteries. You guys may know different.
Before the Helion I had FLIR units built in batteries with lesser battery life. Every time I’ve considered upgrading my Helion I’ve been very disappointed with the new alternatives pulsar particularly especially considering the cost. All I need is a good unit with reasonable battery life. No gadgets that’s going to stand being dragged through crap stood on rained on dropped and will last. I’ve been fortunate with my old Helion it’s done that and more.
Come on you manufacturers get in the real world never mind the sails pitch and video of Harkila clad Blasa carrying models walking in fields in drizzle.

To be fair to Hik you might like to watch this.



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Keefer
 
The one negative I have found is the optical channel isn’t really suitable for proper deer management. It’s fine if you just want to muller muntjac or fallow but if you need more detail for management of deer then it isn’t suitable. For example judging head quality on bucks its extremely difficult. Judging between a good or a poor pricket is also a challenge. In my view these are out too early and the optical channel should have been fitted with the 4K gear from the latest Alpex. I am guessing though that there will be a Habrok 4K before the end of the year.
Agree, had a good go with the 35’s today and thought the optical channel was very poor and to be honest not much use, i cant realy see what benefit it would be once you have spotted your quarry, gun on sticks for selection and final conformation.
The thermal image didn’t seem as sharp as my Condor, the diopter adjustment is very finicky and the slightest movement once set knocked them way out of focus and seemed a bit loose and wobbly on both of them, i can see them being moved in use.
Its a lump and you need to be holding them with both hands to use all the buttons.
I think if you are sat in a truck just scanning then maybe but for walking and stalking i’d take the Condor every time.
 
Well I did ask !!! :)

Thanks for taking the time guys.
Warts n all.
There’s no doubt in my opinion Hick have cracked the image / software side of this game. They should have really considering they are probably the biggest manufacturer of consumer optical and thermal surveillance equipment by far. Having been OEM for many others for years. They have in house repair facilities in the country’s the sell to. Pulsar just write of their units after the warranty runs out. TJ say there not interested in repairing them.
I have been able to compare with top end military units and besides the magnification ability along with range finding and other specific systems there getting there. When you consider there cooled sensors which even if we could afford them we couldn’t buy them anyway.
I’m hoping they will see the light and drop the 18650 format for main power supply to their units soon. It’s really a shame my 8 year old Helion battery still lasts 7 hrs and has been used several times a week every week Even more during the Badger cull seasons.
I’ve not seen any real criticism of their other units using their own batteries. You guys may know different.
Before the Helion I had FLIR units built in batteries with lesser battery life. Every time I’ve considered upgrading my Helion I’ve been very disappointed with the new alternatives pulsar particularly especially considering the cost. All I need is a good unit with reasonable battery life. No gadgets that’s going to stand being dragged through crap stood on rained on dropped and will last. I’ve been fortunate with my old Helion it’s done that and more.
Come on you manufacturers get in the real world never mind the sails pitch and video of Harkila clad Blasa carrying models walking in fields in drizzle.

To be fair to Hik you might like to watch this.



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Keefer

Start watching 5 minutes in
 
As with most equipment, it depends on what you want to use them for.
I primarily shoot after dark for my fox control work and find the Habroks absolutely brilliant, with no gripes whatsoever. I find the colours in the optical (daylight) mode a bit garish but don't see that as a problem and for summer use I'd probabaly use conventional binos anyway.
I've used quite a lot of thermal gear and the Habroks paired with a HIK micro Thunder 2 on the 204 are (for me) without a doubt, the best combination so far!
 
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