How to overcome excessive eyeshine?

[Cyres]

I have been using my Yukon N470s for years and it's an excellent bit of kit. I only use the on board IR. In most cases illumination is fine but on odd situations the eye shine off a fox obliterates the image so effectively all I see are the eyes and nothing else. I can clearly see the fox with my thermal but not with the scope.
Is the cause too much or too little IR? I use a 940 torch with my Photon but rarely used on foxs so I don't know if this would resolve the problem.
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[Smellydog]

I use Rimmel....for the London look

 

[Sika98k]

Too much IR I’d reckon. There are 3 levels on the built in IR. or try adjusting the contrast. Admittedly a bit difficult to do when you have a fox in the cross hairs. But rabbits and hares eyes reflect also, not as strongly however. Could practice on them for results.

 

[Whalberg86]

Are you 100% sure it's the eyes and not something else reflective in the foreground?

The built in IR on the N470 is on the left of the scope. As a RH shooter I normally have my left hand on the bridge of the viperflex sticks resting against the forend of the rifle. So when taking a shot my hand below but in line with the onboard IR.

I found the reflection from my hand was was enough to really degrade the image, gloves and an IR on the otherside sorted that for me.

Also the onboard IR isn't focusable so it throws a pretty wide spread. I think the Yukon is 850nm, so you won't get as clear an image with the 940 but it's worth trying something different if it's annoying you.

 

[Drum123]

The n470 is a bloody good digi NV unit , I've switched to thermal now , still have the n470 in the cupboard just in case I fancy using digi NV again in the future.
Personally I never had excessive eye shine that could obscure what the eyes belonged to but , like all digi NV , I did have instances where something in front of the target reflected the ir , vegetation usually.

 

[BenBhoy]

The n470 is a bloody good digi NV unit , I've switched to thermal now , still have the n470 in the cupboard just in case I fancy using digi NV again in the future.
Personally I never had excessive eye shine that could obscure what the eyes belonged to but , like all digi NV , I did have instances where something in front of the target reflected the ir , vegetation usually.

That was my biggest gripe with n470s even on lowest setting grass in foreground would white out. I really liked the Yukon though, great image at distance.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

That was my biggest gripe with n470s even on lowest setting grass in foreground would white out. I really liked the Yukon though, great image at distance.

I'm still using my Yukon, albeit with extra IR on top. Picture is excellent for what I need, wouldn't want to shoot at a thermal signature

 

[BenBhoy]

I'm still using my Yukon, albeit with extra IR on top. Picture is excellent for what I need, wouldn't want to shoot at a thermal signature

I've never looked through a drone. But of the units I've owned & others Ive looked through, N470S best night time image. Just shame it's so heavy.

 

[Cyres]

Ok thanks guys. Firstly its not any debris grass or what ever. Several incidents of late. Fox sitting up looking straight at me. Couple of foxs curled up sleeping. One 50 yds away. Just has white out eye shine. 95% sure it was a fox but v urban environment so could be pet moggy.
I have made an aluminium sleeve to fit over the illuminator to cut down overspill. I think Bruce posted that the sensor is v sensitive so doesn't need a lot of IR. I think it is a very good unit yes tad heavy but pretty bomb proof. I cannot fathom out why they discontinued them.

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[long_range_rob]

I have been using my Yukon N470s for years and it's an excellent bit of kit. I only use the on board IR. In most cases illumination is fine but on odd situations the eye shine off a fox obliterates the image so effectively all I see are the eyes and nothing else. I can clearly see the fox with my thermal but not with the scope.
Is the cause too much or too little IR? I use a 940 torch with my Photon but rarely used on foxs so I don't know if this would resolve the problem.
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At the risk of being flippant, just aim between the eyes. Unless you’re seeing two one eyed foxes you won’t go far wrong.

 

[Rhodesianjess]

At the risk of being flippant, just aim between the eyes. Unless you’re seeing two one eyed foxes you won’t go far wrong.

Very rarely I head shoot old Charlie, don't need to save any carcass so the biggest bit behind the front legs does me just fine. Have looked through other keeper mates thermal scope, not for me.

 

[pigeonbasher]

have you tried a 940 ir??

 

[Foxyboy43]

I found this happening when I first went over to the dark side - if I had the IR on a tight (intense) spot focus - adjusting the focus to fill the screen sorted it…