kennyc
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I am sure if you pay a gunsmith the difference in price between the Howa and the brands mentioned, he could make that catch point disappear, and buy you a slap up meal at Mrs Miggins Pie shop as well
Howa sloppy bolt
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You wouldn’t have much of the howa left by the time he fixed that...I am sure if you pay a gunsmith the difference in price between the Howa and the brands mentioned, he could make that catch point disappear, and buy you a slap up meal at Mrs Miggins Pie shop as well
kennyc
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now you are just being sillyYou wouldn’t have much of the howa left by the time he fixed that...
As silly as spending the money trying to get a howa up to mannlicher standards?now you are just being silly
kennyc
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nope, but at least as silly as trying to bring a rich aristocrat who makes videos into the conversation about a budget rifle as some sort of proof that the budget rifle isn't a match for an expensive rifle in feel of operation (as if anyone actually thought it might beAs silly as spending the money trying to get a howa up to mannlicher standards?
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nun_hunter
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True, no one buys a Howa expecting it to be as refined as a rifle 4X the price!nope, but at least as silly as trying to bring a rich aristocrat who makes videos into the conversation about a budget rifle as some sort of proof that the budget rifle isn't a match for an expensive rifle in feel of operation (as if anyone actually thought it might be
Define standards. Aesthetics? Accuracy?As silly as spending the money trying to get a howa up to mannlicher standards?
Too much emphasis placed on faf and trimmings.
The shotgun world is even worse for this.
£50k+ for a custom side by side?
No thanks, my £150 Italian Over-Under ejector that pre-dates me by a few decades will be fine!
Aesthetics, materials, finish, product support.
I am well aware some rifles are workhorses...I’ve owned a howa, but some aren’t just work horses and can do everything a workhorse can and more.
regards,
Gixer
Is it the fact the guy’s a rich aristocrat that bugs you? Or that he doesn’t use a howa?nope, but at least as silly as trying to bring a rich aristocrat who makes videos into the conversation about a budget rifle as some sort of proof that the budget rifle isn't a match for an expensive rifle in feel of operation (as if anyone actually thought it might be
whitehackle
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I have a howa and a mannlicker, I prefer my howa!
Id rather dink a cheap rifle than something my mrs would kill me for buying
What more does it do? Make a brew?
Not everyone wants just a workhorse though. I can understand those that do however, i also think you can buy a higher quality rifle that can also be a workhorse with a synthetic stock, coated action/barrel, smooth bolt, silent safety etc and will still be accurate, aesthetically pleasing, hard wearing and probably last a lifetime.Id rather dink a cheap rifle than something my mrs would kill me for buying
What more does it do? Make a brew?
regards,
Gixer
Aesthetically pleasing with a synthetic stock? That sounds like a contradiction in terms if ever there was
I would agree in some respects however, a merkel helix, RPA woodland stalker, Sauer 202 or Blaser R8 are all good looking rifles with quality feeling synthetic stocks.Aesthetically pleasing with a synthetic stock? That sounds like a contradiction in terms if ever there was
I agree that a tiger stripped heavy grain piece of timber is hard to beat for looks though, but in reality some people don’t mind treating a wood stock roughly and they are plenty strong....and a synthetic gets just as scratched up in some cases.
regards,
Gixer
John Gryphon
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Take him and his rifle out to dusty dry old Western Nsw for a weeks running boar and see how it likes to eat daily dust.
You think none of these other rifles could cope with dusty dirty environments?
kennyc
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just pointing out the assinine nature of your comparisonIs it the fact the guy’s a rich aristocrat that bugs you? Or that he doesn’t use a howa?
Asinine? I don’t think so. It was simply a demonstration of someone who actually states a smooth bolt helps his shooting - and he happens to be a renowned shot with a rifle. But whatever floats your boat buddy.just pointing out the assinine nature of your comparison
I believe that the sloppy bolt of the Parker-Hale was specifically designed in that way to cope better with dusty / sandy environments. Finer tolerances would soon be buggered up by grit in the mechanism.
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