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illuminated scopes, and variable large objective ones with illum,,are they really worth £1K+???

just curious, I'm an S&B lover down and out, especially the fixed variety like my 6x42. I was out the other night. sunset 21:24, and I could easily have taken a buck at 22:30 if legal at 100yds or so. just curious how big objective bells and illumination improves my chances when I can already take shots clearly at the point where it becomes illegal to shoot?

same with my zeiss 4x32, come 1hr after sunset, bummer, do I really have to go, there's plenty of light still:D
 
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Hi mate, also have a S&B 6x42 and find it perfect in low light.

Having said this when I'm at Bisley shooting 300/600m, or long range foxing, I do think a high mag and illuminated reticle would be nice... I briefly had such a scope (duralyt) but couldn't justify keeping it for the few times a year it "would be nice"!

If £1500 wasnt a lot to me then I'd have a S&B top of the range jobbie, but it is! Also the 6x42 is lightweight,robust, and does everything u need it to 99% of the time :)
 
I was out lamping a few weeks ago when a pair of eyes lit up in the lamp at 250+ yds. Put the .243 on a wall, viewed on 8x mag through my Swarovski Z6i and could clearly see the fox coming towards us. As I chambered a round my mate was asking repeatedly are you sure it's a fox?
I couldn't believe he could not see it as to me it was as clear a day time. 230 yds a little squeeze of the trigger and I replied - no it's a dead fox.
Ok it took me 3 years to pay for it but I think it's worth every penny
Wingy
 
Wingy said:
I was out lamping a few weeks ago when a pair of eyes lit up in the lamp at 250+ yds. Put the .243 on a wall, viewed on 8x mag through my Swarovski Z6i and could clearly see the fox coming towards us. As I chambered a round my mate was asking repeatedly are you sure it's a fox?
I couldn't believe he could not see it as to me it was as clear a day time. 230 yds a little squeeze of the trigger and I replied - no it's a dead fox.
Ok it took me 3 years to pay for it but I think it's worth every penny
Wingy
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+1...

Great bit of kit - especially since I emailed Swarovski customer service to moan about the illum getting knocked on and they sent me the little plastic fix-it...
 
I. Farticus said:
+1...

Great bit of kit - especially since I emailed Swarovski customer service to moan about the illum getting knocked on and they sent me the little plastic fix-it...
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I've had the scope now for 5 years it was first on my .308 and now my .243 never had any issues or reason to contact Swarovski with any complaint but believe their customer service is 2nd to none.
I was always told - buy the best scope you can't really afford and then use the change to buy the rifle, if you can't see it in the first place you can't shoot at it!
 
Wingy said:
I've had the scope now for 5 years it was first on my .308 and now my .243 never had any issues or reason to contact Swarovski with any complaint but believe their customer service is 2nd to none.
I was always told - buy the best scope you can't really afford and then use the change to buy the rifle, if you can't see it in the first place you can't shoot at it!
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LOL! Add 50% to what you think your budget is for glass!!

I swear by Swaro - just upgraded my EL to EL-R and they are stonking. Add up rifle and glass, and rifle is only 22% of the total... Oooops
 
I agree - I watched a sika hind and calf until about 10 minutes after last shooting light, with my 8X56 S&B recently and by that time although I could still see the reticule on the scope I couldn't see the deer clearly enough to have shot them. Illumination might be nice to have if you've nothing else to spend the money on but in my view, for the deer stalker, it is mostly a marketing tool rather than something you need.

I think that most of the big name optics companies seem to make scopes that are adequate for our needs. Based on my experiences I'd rate scope performance at last light as follows:

1) Nickel
2) Zeiss
3) S&B and Swaro

As you can see the scope I own comes joint 3rd in my testing. I know it isn't the best glass in the world at least light but I also know that it is perfectly capable of doing the job I need it to do and that, rather than getting carried away with marketing and magazine adverts, is what is important.
 
I have both a swaro 8x56 non illuminated and a7x50 zeiss illuminated both with 4areticules. Whilst they are both great bits of kit the zeiss is my favourite the illuminated reticule just gives me some much more confidence in low light. Showed its value once again on sunday night with another lovely roe buck i took at 8.45pm, 117mtrs no probs off sticks. Gotta love quality kit. Soon as i have the funds i will upgrade the swaro to an illuminated one. As for variable mag cant be doing with that not got the time to mess around and dont need anything more for lowland woodland stalking.
 
Finch said:
Well it does, a larger object allows a correspondingly higher magnification to be used to obtain the same exit pupil as a smaller lens.
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I have done this before but for the amusement of myself and others please explain!

Before you do though!

It was a subject, I had the pleasure of a very long conversation, with the ziess guy over a drink or two at the deer stalking fair.

The original thread where I made my comment was bought up and talked about in that conversation. The same chap who also mentioned something I had forgotten. But I digress
Please continue!!!!
 
Looking forward to watching this one develop... I have my own thoughts, but ultimately I'm a slave to Swarovski's "Department of Colouring In"!!

Admin - Popcorn icon please?
 
Relax! It will all be irrelevant in any case as fairly soon no quality manufacturer will list anything less than a 2-25x 75mm scope with 27 choices of illumination level and 6 colour options as their minimum entry level scope! ;)

Is it due to popular demand or 'created demand' ? - now there's another discussion with no end! :banghead:
 
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