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Importing into the UK from EU... -SM-APHA-Pet Travel (APHA)
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It’s not just pups. The owner must travel within 5 days of the pet otherwise it’s classed as a commercial import and APHA must carry out the pet checks, not the local border control post staff and you need different paperwork.
All depends on the country the animal is originating from best bet is to look on IATA or other such websites to find couriers that are signed up to the PETS scheme so should be okay to use
wildfowler.250
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I’m actually surprised by how much interest there is in importing pups. I’d have thought there would be tons of options in the uk? Possibly deer dogs are slightly different to the uk working dog mainstream and better in Europe?
mereside
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Depends on what you want from a dog, most people don’t really see it, from our point of view from the two working society’s in hounds the drive these dogs have is incredible, Uk dogs or hounds do not have the same in any form, most people don’t want this and find it hard to handle, you see here people crossing them to get a more biddable dog but with the right hands and training a handler it is easy to get the best from them, same for wires and other breeds but again it’s usually the handler that needs the training not so much the dog, their instinct has been bred for purpose this just then needs the guidance to get the best from them.
There is some real crap though in Europe and this is what people don’t understand fci doesn’t mean you get something good so it is imperative you understand what you are doing, in the past Bavarian or Hannovarian came here from duff papers with not for breeding stamped on papers or you got something in writing that wasn’t on the leash. These dogs then produced faults and issues that will never be undone, I read elsewhere this week where another organisation was talking about breeding and how little drive Uk dogs have, if you spend time working dogs on the continent or here in the Uk you see the differences, I think people are realising but will they then start breeding with Uk stock for what they want or to dilute what they have, time will tell, for us we are happy to go back to Europe when asked and put back into the breed for the good of our dogs, prices are fixed and only handlers in each society get back the dogs to work and further the breeds, let’s hope others start doing more to help the breeds and not add further to issues we have here, regards Wayne.
It depends what you are looking for. There are thousands of wirehaired dachshunds in the UK and hundreds of imported working-bred dachshunds (teckels) but out of the 24 working-bred stud dogs that I know of, I would only use five. Also, once you like a certain type/line it makes sense to go back to it.
This is the part I am stuck on as my friend had two pups stuck in customs - total cost 0ver £2000
"The pet must move within 5 days of the owner’s movement, or the movement of a person the owner has authorised in writing to be responsible for their pet. If you can’t meet this requirement then the pet will have to travel under the rules of the commercial trade and import regime."
Does this mean that If a courier of a puppy carries written permission from the owner and all of the vaccination rules worming are correct......There should be no problems??
Yeah that's right, my pup came from Italy so we had the courier pick him up and take him to the airport with written permission from the breeder which also included my name sp when he got to Heathrow I was able to collect him.
For me I originally wanted a husky (as my dog is a pet first and foremost) however as they aren't the most intelligent of dogs I had to do some searching and ended with a breed called a shikoku which is a Japanese hunting dog and I couldn't be happier with Major
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wildfowler.250
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Interesting replies. Probably very accurate and most people want a combination of house pet and gun dog
Can I ask, what do you mean by stuck in customs? Pets can only generally be held at the port for up to 72hrs. They are then either sent back to the country of origin or to 3rd party quarantine kennels where they have the necessary treatments. UK authorities are still playing Brexit catch-up. Pet passports are generally needed to release a pet from quarantine, but export health certs are being issued until a replacement for the U.K. pet passport is agreed on! We’ve only had 4 years to sort that out
Regarding the 5 day rule, if you travel within 5 days of the pet, it’s a non-commercial movement. If you don’t travel within 5 days, it’s a commercial movement regardless if its a pup or even your own pet. Proof of travel needs to be submitted to evidence. You need to fill in different paperwork. VAT will be payable on entry unless you’re moving to the U.K. with your pet and have a Transfer of Residency (ToR) number.
it’s generally easier, and safer to employ the services of specialist pet shipping agents. You can save maybe £60-£250 ish if you do it yourself, but if you overlook, misread something or a single digit is wrong on a microchip number, you can be stuck with a hefty quarantine bill and extra APHA charges. Especially if your pet arrives out of hours or on the weekend. This sounds like whats happened with your friend.
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Mainly a result of lockdown and organised crime gangs turning to pups! Next to no repercussions for significant gain if caught smuggling pups when other “commodities” carry lengthy prison sentences for similar money. Some pups go for £8k+ each!
levigsp
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Exactly that the courier most come to the uk within five days of the puppy. this only enters the equation if the puppy is flow over to the uk
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