Ineos Grenadier- I wonder what it will be like driving on Motorways do long journeys etc

[Heym SR20]

So we have all the videos and read the reviews and it looks like the Grenadier will be a very capable vehicle hauling a crew up a mountain with lots of gear, but fully expect that 95% of the miles driven by most will be on the tar getting to the fun places, or will just be used on roads as an everyday vehicle / load carrier in the same way most Defender station wagons were and still are.

I suspect with its BMW powertrain it will be pretty smooth and reasonably efficient fuel wise, and the seating ( Recaro’s) but is it the sort of vehicle you will effortlessly be able to cover big mileages.

All the reviews / videos show it going up and down really greasy muddy slopes with ease. Yes useful when you are trying to extract several deer from the bottom of the glen, but I want to know what it’s like driving to North of Scotland or down to bottom of England and not need the services of a chiropractor or neurologist.

 

[Andy seatrout]

Bring flippant ( and I like these, a friend of mine ex-Bentley now works for Ineos)…… most of my motorway driving seems to be smart motorways with 60mph limits- traffic jams etc….so 70mph is a bonus nowadays

I understand they’re coil springed suspension, and the 3 litre BMW engine….. they can’t be too shabby….

 

[timbrayford]

Utility vehicle or Chelsea Tractor?

 

[Andy seatrout]

Utility vehicle or Chelsea Tractor?

I think very definitely utility vehicle - over engineered at a premium - a lot of good design

 

[Dillon]

The Ineos is what the new Landrover should have been, just hopefully more reliable!

 

[cjm1066]

Aren't Land rovers the world's best off roaders, due to always being in the garage for repair.

 

[timbrayford]

I think very definitely utility vehicle - over engineered at a premium - a lot of good design

£ 35k OTR price tag then?

 

[Bavarianbrit]

A fibreglass Rickman Ranger kit that I built onto a galvanised Rickman chassis in the late 80s had 2WD Escort running gear (I was not a hunter in those days, just hated rust).

 

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A fibreglass Rickman Ranger kit that I built onto a galvanised Rickman chassis in the late 80s had 2WD Escort running gear (I was not a hunter in those days, just hated rust).
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Looks like a prototype for Suzuki sj

 

[John Gryphon]

I want to know what it’s like driving to North of Scotland or down to bottom of England and not need the services of a chiropractor or neurologist.

I would be very happy to be given one to drive around Australia`s 10,000 miles over a leisurely half year or so.

 

[Dunwaters]

So we have all the videos and read the reviews and it looks like the Grenadier will be a very capable vehicle hauling a crew up a mountain with lots of gear, but fully expect that 95% of the miles driven by most will be on the tar getting to the fun places, or will just be used on roads as an everyday vehicle / load carrier in the same way most Defender station wagons were and still are.

I suspect with its BMW powertrain it will be pretty smooth and reasonably efficient fuel wise, and the seating ( Recaro’s) but is it the sort of vehicle you will effortlessly be able to cover big mileages.

All the reviews / videos show it going up and down really greasy muddy slopes with ease. Yes useful when you are trying to extract several deer from the bottom of the glen, but I want to know what it’s like driving to North of Scotland or down to bottom of England and not need the services of a chiropractor or neurologist.

If you want a Land Rover that’s good off road and on the motorway too, forget the Defender and its clones, get a Discovery or a Rangey if you can afford it.
I’ve tried to like the Defender but we just don’t get along, the short wheel base is way too small and the 110, 130 are just ridiculously big and all of them are stupidly uncomfortable.
The 100 inch chassis on the Disco’s does it all and will happily cruise comfortably all day at motorway speeds without giving up much off road performance and do it while carrying 4 or 5 adults plus gear.

 

[HDShark]

Really don't understand all the chiropractor jokes. I drive an old Defender 90 around the UK and have yet to lose any fillings or needed a spinal adjustment. Yes you notice the difference if you go straight form the Landy into a range rover, but otherwise find it perfectly comfortable.

What on earth did people do before heated reclining seats and multi-zone air conditioning!

 

[Bavarianbrit]

Looks like a prototype for Suzuki sj

They copied the Suzuki.

 

[Heym SR20]

Really don't understand all the chiropractor jokes. I drive an old Defender 90 around the UK and have yet to lose any fillings or needed a spinal adjustment. Yes you notice the difference if you go straight form the Landy into a range rover, but otherwise find it perfectly comfortable.

What on earth did people do before heated reclining seats and multi-zone air conditioning!

I had an early 110 with sliding windows and a 2.5litre straight 4 Petrol engine. I have driven and been a passenger thousands of miles in Series Landrovers and 110’s and Defenders in both Africa and the UK.

But being 6ft tall I just find them really cramped and uncomfortable. They were designed for when 5ft 6”, 5ft 8” was the typical height. I find the same on trains and planes. None are built for anybody who is 6 ft and above.

And at 6ft, I am reasonably tall, but these days not particularly tall.

And the New Defender still has its seats but on big boxes so no way of bringing your heel back etc.

 

[BSAvale]

Really don't understand all the chiropractor jokes. I drive an old Defender 90 around the UK and have yet to lose any fillings or needed a spinal adjustment. Yes you notice the difference if you go straight form the Landy into a range rover, but otherwise find it perfectly comfortable.

What on earth did people do before heated reclining seats and multi-zone air conditioning!

You are obviously made of tough stuff…there’s no way I’d swap my heated / air cooled massage seats and automatic self driving suv for a defender for driving around the country.

 

[Limpet]

The most reliable landrover made is the Freelander 2 ..... it is good off road, not as capable as a defender, but good for an SUV..... but it's trick is to be also very good on motorways the the 95% of normal driving.

 

[Andy seatrout]

£ 35k OTR price tag then?

I think the ‘over-engineered’ part of it means that’s definitely not true….. which is a shame.

TBH it’s the same with most 4x4; I have a Volvo XC90 2010 plate, I bought it when it was three years old for £16k, over eight years ago now….. the list price was £35k in 2010, so if you work out inflation at CPI a new ‘next but one’ base XC90 should cost around £45k now ( so a three year old one should be £22k……. Not a chance….)

Personally we make all new 4x4 cars too complicated and too expensive whether ICE or electric…… there’s only a few manufacturers who’ve spotted the gap (Dacia Duster)- but I’d not fit in one! Or you buy a yute!