Jeremy Clarkson - Sunday Times article

[Chasey]

Good article! I like Clarkson because he doesnt care about peoples feelings and he is usually right.

Unfortunately there is a substantial minority of wallies in our society who dont care about facts but do care about their feelings, and who tend to treat anyone who thinks differently to them as a social leper. Even more unfortunately this seems to be a growing trend which is why fieldsports are in the trouble they are in now...

Couldn't agree more on both issues

 

[Alantoo]

In order to take the lead and frustrate the other arguments of antis, what should we do about "birds of prey gone missing on shooting estates", "feeding of fox cubs to hounds" and "dumping of peasant carcasses"? Stop shooting on estates, put down all hounds and eradicate pheasants?

Your reason for wanting to get rid of lead ammunition is the exact antithesis of what the posters above are arguing for - i.e. that policies should be based solely on facts so far as they can be ascertained and sound evidence. The facts are that only three years ago the issue of lead ammunition was examined closely by the government and it was found that there is no evidence that justifies banning it. Since then, no more compelling evidence has emerged. It is also a fact that nobody has ever been diagnosed as suffering any disease resulting from eating lead-shot game anywhere in the world. It's wilful, blind stupidity to want to ban something when there is no evidence of it doing harm, and where evidence does exist of a ban itself being detrimental.

Nothing does more to damage our credibility as conservators of the countryside than for some of our own number to take up idiot campaigns to enforce their own prejudices on others. It's a basic premise of common law that anything should be legal if it's not illegal, and nothing should be made illegal if there isn't sufficient good reason to outlaw it. I find it hard to have any time for people who appear unable to grasp or agree with that simple principle.

QED

Your combative response is an example of the same tactic I referenced from @ArunT 's post, undermine the credibility of my suggestion by denigrating me and inferring I am wanting.

You ignore what I actually said about the tactic, but credit me with attitudes I don't have, and imply I am stupid!

A lead ban is the exact antithesis of what I suggested.

And I didn't say anything about shooting any locals.

Alan

 

[Dexter]

No. Council Housed And Violent is a CHAV. Hedge fund managers are normally just new-monied w-anchors, but if they are keeping our gunsmiths, RFDs, cartridge suppliers and shoots alive with their contribution, then let them.

Mark

Used to have quite a few days bought by hedge fund managers when I lived in Hampshire. They were very decent guys TBH. Sure they got more in bonuses than I earn't in 3 years but so what? They were decent to us, had all the gear and most couldn't shoot that well but who cares. They enjoyed their days and kept the shoot going. I believe that the keepers were tipped very well too.
Would love to know why you're calling them w-anchors? These people have a bigger say in the future of our sports than most of us do as their clients are often titled individuals and MP's.

 

[markyw]

Used to have quite a few days bought by hedge fund managers when I lived in Hampshire. They were very decent guys TBH. Sure they got more in bonuses than I earn't in 3 years but so what? They were decent to us, had all the gear and most couldn't shoot that well but who cares. They enjoyed their days and kept the shoot going. I believe that the keepers were tipped very well too.
Would love to know why you're calling them w-anchors? These people have a bigger say in the future of our sports than most of us do as their clients are often titled individuals and MP's.

I work and drink with a lot of them, it's almost a term of affection

Mark