Joe biden

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Biggest con of all was making the American public think they had a choice in who gets elected.

At best they are a rubber stamp of approval that lets political donors (corporations and lobby groups) get their agenda's pushed through under the guise of policy.

Freedom? More like red pill or blue pill?

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He's a bit too old (John) to be a great grandfather of those young chaps but Trump a relative - that I could believe.
I would have thought since Magna Carta was signed in 1200's afew more grands should have been added?
 
With all the reasonable replies I'm not sure where to start.:lol: What do I think of Joe Biden? Not much. His greatest achievement in half a century in public office was to stay in office and his history of personal behavior is worthy of contempt, but I will leave that research to you few "scholars" of American politics. Donald Trump is no more worthy of praise. Unfortunately, our presidential choices were not between the Pope and Mother Theresa. The choice was more like a kick in the stones versus a stick in the eye and we all had to choose our preferred poison. Trump lost and Biden won whether I like it or not.

This outcome however, didn't change truth to lies. There is plenty of evidence of widespread voter fraud and almost everyone with even a dash of intellectual honesty has admitted as much. The real question is whether or not there was enough fraud to overturn the outcome of the election. This was the reasoning for all the lawsuits to be dismissed. Not one judge has ruled that there was no fraud, just not enough to prove the worthiness of a trial and therein lies the problem. Without the court's subpoena power there is no practical way to obtain the evidence required to prove a case.
I for one, do not believe that fraud in our election system is acceptable regardless of who won or lost. Any evidence of such needs to be investigated in order to preserve faith in our electoral process. These truths are not flexible and should not bend to the current prevailing wind direction or be dismissed as inconvenient. To you naysayers......do you have enough integrity to search for and speak the truth when it doesn't promote or support your position?

A few more points to address. (1) Who we voted for is private but whether or not we voted is a matter of public record as is the information on our voter registration which among other things can include party affiliation, name, address, phone number, income, place of employment, marriage status, and children's names. (2) The $1400 stimulus checks didn't come from the earnings of Joe Biden's weekend paper route. They were issued from the treasury and have been or will be paid for with our taxes. Should we be thankful for a gift that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for with interest? Is this the help that you speak of Mealiejimmy? (3) Thank you Fair Hill for the semi-veiled comparison to deadbeat losers in your country. So glad that civil discourse is alive and well. (4) The assertion that GOP controlled states are trying to exclude minorities is utter tripe. If you are a legal citizen of our country and registered to vote there is nothing to keep you from doing so other than proving that you are that person. If you don't want to show identification for whatever reason, then don't vote. I have to show ID to buy alcohol, cigarettes, rent a car, fly on a plane, open a bank account, buy a gun, buy a hunting license, pick up a prescription and so on. Should it be any different when participating in our most sacred institution?

Scott
 
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Mountain Bug said:
With all the reasonable replies I'm not sure where to start.:lol: What do I think of Joe Biden? Not much. His greatest achievement in half a century in public office was to stay in office and his history of personal behavior is worthy of contempt, but I will leave that research to you few "scholars" of American politics. Donald Trump is no more worthy of praise. Unfortunately, our presidential choices were not between the Pope and Mother Theresa. The choice was more like a kick in the stones versus a stick in the eye and we all had to choose our preferred poison. Trump lost and Biden won whether I like it or not.

This outcome however, didn't change truth to lies. There is plenty of evidence of widespread voter fraud and almost everyone with even a dash of intellectual honesty has admitted as much. The real question is whether or not there was enough fraud to overturn the outcome of the election. This was the reasoning for all the lawsuits to be dismissed. Not one judge has ruled that there was no fraud, just not enough to prove the worthiness of a trial and therein lies the problem. Without the court's subpoena power there is no practical way to obtain the evidence required to prove a case.
I for one, do not believe that fraud in our election system is acceptable regardless of who won or lost. Any evidence of such needs to be investigated in order to preserve faith in our electoral process. These truths are not flexible and should not bend to the current prevailing wind direction or be dismissed as inconvenient. To you naysayers......do you have enough integrity to search for and speak the truth when it doesn't promote or support your position?

A few more points to address. (1) Who we voted for is private but whether or not we voted is a matter of public record as is the information on our voter registration which among other things can include party affiliation, name, address, phone number, income, place of employment, marriage status, and children's names. (2) The $1400 stimulus checks didn't come from the earnings of Joe Biden's weekend paper route. They were issued from the treasury and have been or will be paid for with our taxes. Should we be thankful for a gift that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for with interest? Is this the help that you speak of Mealiejimmy? (3) Thank you Fair Hill for the semi-veiled comparison to deadbeat losers in your country. So glad that civil discourse is alive and well. (4) The assertion that GOP controlled states are trying to exclude minorities is utter tripe. If you are a legal citizen of our country and registered to vote there is nothing to keep you from doing so other than proving that you are that person. If you don't want to show identification for whatever reason, then don't vote. I have to show ID to buy alcohol, cigarettes, rent a car, fly on a plane, open a bank account, buy a gun, buy a hunting license, pick up a prescription and so on. Should it be any different when participating in our most sacred institution?

Scott
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So the dead people that somehow had their votes used may well have added two votes to Donald Trump's tally but somehow the truth is they didn't and he was robbed?

Come off the stage Scott, President Biden won fair and square.
 
mealiejimmy said:
What scares you about him?
He's provided more help and support for the American people during this dreadful pandemic in 7 weeks than Trump did for a whole year
Biden may turn out to be a good president, a mediocre president or a bad president, but he'll never be worse than Trump

Cheers

Bruce
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That sir is just plane nonsense, all Biden has done is take credit for things his administration didn't set up, and then claim falsely that no vaccine existed before he took office. Both he and the VP were vaccinated in dec well before they took over. From the start of this pandemic and anything Trump did was mocked by Biden and our democrat party. Nothing went exactly perfect, hasn't yet either. As to the help and support we spent 1.9 trillion and less than 10% is for covid related functions. Huge sums spent on other peoples country's and programs here that haven't used the funding from the last spending debacle.
 
Mountain Bug said:
With all the reasonable replies I'm not sure where to start.:lol: What do I think of Joe Biden? Not much. His greatest achievement in half a century in public office was to stay in office and his history of personal behavior is worthy of contempt, but I will leave that research to you few "scholars" of American politics. Donald Trump is no more worthy of praise. Unfortunately, our presidential choices were not between the Pope and Mother Theresa. The choice was more like a kick in the stones versus a stick in the eye and we all had to choose our preferred poison. Trump lost and Biden won whether I like it or not.

This outcome however, didn't change truth to lies. There is plenty of evidence of widespread voter fraud and almost everyone with even a dash of intellectual honesty has admitted as much. The real question is whether or not there was enough fraud to overturn the outcome of the election. This was the reasoning for all the lawsuits to be dismissed. Not one judge has ruled that there was no fraud, just not enough to prove the worthiness of a trial and therein lies the problem. Without the court's subpoena power there is no practical way to obtain the evidence required to prove a case.
I for one, do not believe that fraud in our election system is acceptable regardless of who won or lost. Any evidence of such needs to be investigated in order to preserve faith in our electoral process. These truths are not flexible and should not bend to the current prevailing wind direction or be dismissed as inconvenient. To you naysayers......do you have enough integrity to search for and speak the truth when it doesn't promote or support your position?

A few more points to address. (1) Who we voted for is private but whether or not we voted is a matter of public record as is the information on our voter registration which among other things can include party affiliation, name, address, phone number, income, place of employment, marriage status, and children's names. (2) The $1400 stimulus checks didn't come from the earnings of Joe Biden's weekend paper route. They were issued from the treasury and have been or will be paid for with our taxes. Should we be thankful for a gift that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for with interest? Is this the help that you speak of Mealiejimmy? (3) Thank you Fair Hill for the semi-veiled comparison to deadbeat losers in your country. So glad that civil discourse is alive and well. (4) The assertion that GOP controlled states are trying to exclude minorities is utter tripe. If you are a legal citizen of our country and registered to vote there is nothing to keep you from doing so other than proving that you are that person. If you don't want to show identification for whatever reason, then don't vote. I have to show ID to buy alcohol, cigarettes, rent a car, fly on a plane, open a bank account, buy a gun, buy a hunting license, pick up a prescription and so on. Should it be any different when participating in our most sacred institution?

Scott
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Well said sir.
 
Daddy The Skunk said:
Exactly none.
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In his first 48 hours of office President Biden signed 30 executive orders, 14 of which targeted a broad range of Trump's delusional ideas.

The remainder were aimed at implementing emergency measures at some small issues, you know yourself, things like coping with the pandemic and the economic crisis.
 
Fair Hill said:
In his first 48 hours of office President Biden signed 30 executive orders, 14 of which targeted a broad range of Trump's delusional ideas.

The remainder were aimed at implementing emergency measures at some small issues, you know yourself, things like coping with the pandemic and the economic crisis.
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and i bet he didnt have a clue what he was signing bs
 
Mountain Bug said:
With all the reasonable replies I'm not sure where to start.:lol: What do I think of Joe Biden? Not much. His greatest achievement in half a century in public office was to stay in office and his history of personal behavior is worthy of contempt, but I will leave that research to you few "scholars" of American politics. Donald Trump is no more worthy of praise. Unfortunately, our presidential choices were not between the Pope and Mother Theresa. The choice was more like a kick in the stones versus a stick in the eye and we all had to choose our preferred poison. Trump lost and Biden won whether I like it or not.

This outcome however, didn't change truth to lies. There is plenty of evidence of widespread voter fraud and almost everyone with even a dash of intellectual honesty has admitted as much. The real question is whether or not there was enough fraud to overturn the outcome of the election. This was the reasoning for all the lawsuits to be dismissed. Not one judge has ruled that there was no fraud, just not enough to prove the worthiness of a trial and therein lies the problem. Without the court's subpoena power there is no practical way to obtain the evidence required to prove a case.
I for one, do not believe that fraud in our election system is acceptable regardless of who won or lost. Any evidence of such needs to be investigated in order to preserve faith in our electoral process. These truths are not flexible and should not bend to the current prevailing wind direction or be dismissed as inconvenient. To you naysayers......do you have enough integrity to search for and speak the truth when it doesn't promote or support your position?

A few more points to address. (1) Who we voted for is private but whether or not we voted is a matter of public record as is the information on our voter registration which among other things can include party affiliation, name, address, phone number, income, place of employment, marriage status, and children's names. (2) The $1400 stimulus checks didn't come from the earnings of Joe Biden's weekend paper route. They were issued from the treasury and have been or will be paid for with our taxes. Should we be thankful for a gift that our children and grandchildren will have to pay for with interest? Is this the help that you speak of Mealiejimmy? (3) Thank you Fair Hill for the semi-veiled comparison to deadbeat losers in your country. So glad that civil discourse is alive and well. (4) The assertion that GOP controlled states are trying to exclude minorities is utter tripe. If you are a legal citizen of our country and registered to vote there is nothing to keep you from doing so other than proving that you are that person. If you don't want to show identification for whatever reason, then don't vote. I have to show ID to buy alcohol, cigarettes, rent a car, fly on a plane, open a bank account, buy a gun, buy a hunting license, pick up a prescription and so on. Should it be any different when participating in our most sacred institution?

Scott
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As per my previous post “ All this evidence of voter fraud” fact, 62 court cases majority in Republican states plus 2 Supreme Court cases, every one was lost on the same basic point no evidence. This from a country that prides itself on a strong and independent judicial system. Turn the page over and move on as you are eroding the worlds view of one of the great democracies
 
The point may well be that an investigation should have taken place to confirm or deny the truth of the rumours, which have effectively split the country down the middle. No court cases just a local investigation.
If the family of the 'black lives matter' guy can get £27M in compensation, surely democracy is worth a few investigations. Precedents, precedents or is that Presidents, Presidents.

(I do know the settlement is at state level.)
 
There’s an interesting op-ed piece in today’s Daily Telegraph about Biden, his handlers fear at the thought of him having to speak without a teleprompter, and the lack of a press conference since his becoming POTUS.

When taken on top of his well-publicised forgetting last week of the name of his own Defence Secretary, and his “What am I doing here?” in late February when speaking at FEMA, it looks increasingly unlikely that Biden will actually make it through the first year of his Presidency, let alone the full term. Interestingly there is an almost complete absence of critical press coverage in the UK compared to Trump, presumably because the BBC and others can’t bring themselves to point out the obvious. Their palpable relief at having Biden in the White House has suspended any notion of objective reporting.

One gets the feeling we are just marking time until the US public can be sold on the idea of the 25th Amendment being invoked due to Biden’s failing faculties and Kamala Harris taking over.

Here is the article:

Joe Biden’s decline has become so painful to see and so embarrassing to watch that it feels cruel to mention it. But it’s even more cruel that Biden’s team act as if it’s not happening, and most of America’s media look the other way. On Thursday, Biden marked the first anniversary of the Covid-19 shutdowns and his 50th day in the White House by giving the first televised address of his presidency. He hadn’t been seen in public for three days.

From the moment he wheezed up to the lectern and peered into the camera, you could tell Biden was on top form: croaky sentiment, sporadic belligerence, and only the occasional moment when he looked oddly distant and perplexed.

He got through 20 minutes, then tottered off without taking any questions. This is how low the bar now is for Biden. And we can see how hard he has to fight, and what a long run-up he requires, if he is to clear it. We can see it in his struggle to follow the simple lines on his autocue, and in his bungling of the simplest ad libs.

We see it in the clips of his increasingly desperate handlers trying to block him from questions at his rare and carefully managed appearances before the cameras. Most of all, we see it in his eyes. “What am I doing here?” Biden asked after fumbling his autocue lines in an address in Texas in late February. He reached for the cue cards that are now his constant companion. “I’m gonna lose track here.”

Biden’s supporters call him “gaffe-prone”. It’s true: he’s always thought with his mouth open. It’s also true that he bravely overcame a speech impediment in childhood, and that anxiety and age can cause a stutter to recur. But these aren’t gaffes or stutters.

Compare how he moves and sounds now to how he was a year ago, let alone five years ago. Biden looks and sounds frail. He seems visibly distressed at his inability to carry out the simplest requirements of office.

When Biden dodged the press during last year’s election campaign, his aides called it Covid precautions. As the pandemic ends, he will run out of excuses for not travelling. He doesn’t look capable of leading an international summit, let alone taking the proverbial 3am phone call. Biden is the first president in decades to reach 50 days in office without giving a press conference. He missed giving the traditional speech to Congress in February. His handlers refuse to say when he might talk to the press, and only offer that it’s “something he will do in the future”.

There’s only one explanation: Biden’s team don’t trust him to manage one of the simplest requirements of modern political office. But they know they can’t defer the reckoning. This presidency is turning into a theatre of cruelty. It can only end one way. Sooner or later, Biden will be caught in the spotlight. And we will all be party to Biden’s public humiliation.
 
From a Canadian perspective , most Canadians didn't like Trump , they didn't have the level of hate evident in this thread , which is a bit disturbing by the way , but they're glad he's gone . Biden doesn't make us feel any better unfortunately . British politics , and Canadian for that matter , are actually pretty polite in comparison to the US . Regardless of political leaning , it's brutal . Personally , I see no good guys in either camp . It's understandable that most in the UK aren't familiar with American politics , we are . We share a border , trade and even tv and radio broadcasts . The amount of outright lies used by both parties in the US , and all parties in Canada , is astounding .
I do find it a bit ironic that the Democrats , and a lot of you on here , loudly proclaimed that they have won and the Reps have to accept it . I can remember Pelosi , Shumer and the usual suspects all screaming that the election was fixed and that they would never accept Trump as their president when he won in 2016 . They also demanded electoral reforms , which they desperately need by the way , but are now only getting worse . There is a lot of voting fraud in parts of the US , google it , there's too much to list here . Unfortunately , Biden will make it worse by making it legal to vote without ID , probably one of the most ridiculous ideas I've heard of in some time , and that includes his earlier cancelling of the Keystone Pipeline which put the boot to Albertas economy . Sorry gentleman , you may buy the fact that he's a hero , but so far Joe Biden just makes me worry how bad it's going to get before he gets voted out or they throw the 25th amendment at him . Time will tell .

AB
 
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