big ears
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About a decade ago and latest figures (2021) show average GP wages under £100k so no wrong on both counts.
Just in case anyone is interested
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This is exactly what's going on here
Nadine Dorries standing down as MP with 'immediate effect' triggering by-election
Ms Dorries had already announced her intention to stand down at the next general election, but said in a tweet she would now be resigning with "immediate effect".
shakey jake
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why have you linked me to this, i dont understandNadine Dorries standing down as MP with 'immediate effect' triggering by-election
Ms Dorries had already announced her intention to stand down at the next general election, but said in a tweet she would now be resigning with "immediate effect".news.sky.com
I think perhaps Big Ears goes on about it because he is a medical practitioner - and as a profession they have (in my experience, at least) very little idea about the conditions under which non-medical people, even in the NHS, earn a living.
She did what you suggested, I thought you'd be happy.
shakey jake
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oh wasnt happy in her job so quit! yes an adult response, unlike train drivers and border force goons.
Absolutely an adult response.
She has shown her pedigree is far more superior to those train drivers and border force goons.
Today at 10.40 am, Nadine Dorries "The last thing I want to do is cause a by election in my constituency".
Today at 3.00pm when Nadine Dorries found out Boris had in her opinion shafted her and hadn't included her in his honours list, " I have just informed the chief whip I am standing down with immediate effect".
If only the goons were as honourable as this fine example of an adult.
Great contribution Beagler.
big ears
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Sounds more like a teddy’s out of the cot petulant child response to shaft Rishi rather than an adult considered response.
I don’t get a gong therefore I’ll make trouble for you by destabilising your government. Very adult, very team player.
All the bloody same. Time this government went.
big ears
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I can understand why you have written this as I agree some in my profession have little realisation of how tuff it is out there. I’m not in the thick of it anymore having retired on ill health but with three children in their twenties trying to make their own way in life and living in one of the poorest parts of the country you are wrong about me. I do see how crap it is out there thanks to this government and the consequences of Brexit
As my mother used to say,” two wrongs don’t make a right”. So rather than give up the fight I will just keep shouting to keep the NHS from collapsing if that’s OK with you. They have saved my life in the last two years and I feel that I owe them at least one voice of support.
BE
big ears
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Voting Tory has probably killed more.
Rasputin
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And yet the service is still overwhelmed. Imagine what it would be like if they hadn’t….
Stupidly ignorant comment!!!
I've no problem with anyone wanting to stop the NHS collapsing.
However, I can't help but think that the only reason anyone could imagine that the principle way to stop it collapsing is to give more pay to the already-highest-paid and generally most-privileged profession in the service is because that person is a member of that profession.
The NHS needs medical practitioners in training positions, of course. But the trainees also need the NHS - and seem happy with the red flag flapping in their eyes to overlook the fact that, as far as I can tell at least, they get a remarkable deal considering they're being paid while in ongoing education - including their study-leave etc. at the end of which they will be qualified to make considerable sums of money.
BenBhoy
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Wow......
To just let fat cats keep on abusing their 'power'?? What if you love your job, your bloody good at it & contribute something that's actually worthwhile to other people's lives? Just walk away & start another career??
big ears
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Thank you for your lack of respect and recognition of worth of the medical profession in this country. Sadly you are not in your own there.
Many professional people are paid more than doctors, many self employed people are on a better hourly rate than doctors.
I do hope your disdain of anyone on high wages stretches to them as well.
BE
I'm not sure I am particularly disrespectful to the medical profession. I hope I didn't come across in that way, and I've certainly acknowledged their worth, having stated unequivocally that the NHS needs them. Not, however, at any price - and the trainees pay demands seem, like a lot of their thinking (in my recent experience at least) about work and conditions, more than a little other-worldly.
I don't think it's helpful to compare healthcare professionals with other professionals in other fields - though even among them we find folk whose vocation is among the poor (and ill people as a bunch tend to be far from wealthy) - I'm thinking of barristers doing the unglamorous end of criminal work, for example - whose earnings are unspectacular, and conditions of work unenviable.
Probably many self-employed people are indeed on a better hourly rate that doctors - but they would need to be to make up for the lack of sick-pay, study leave, paid holiday, time off in lieu after out-of-hours work and, of course, the pension. That kind of comment brings me back to my thoughts expressed in post #25.
paul o'
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A point to note is there is't enough to pay for NHS to maintain our nurses and doctors but !
As sad as it is and is't not of the UK tax payers doing or fault! we do have the funds to give others who have not paid into out Tax system as yet ?.
The Mind boggles at how we can have the funds for others to get a home when we have plenty here UK born living on the streets let alone ex troops in cardboard homes in squalid
The UK should be getting its own homeless sorted first and find the funds to pay nurses and trainee doctors a living!
My sunny day rant .
As sad as it is and is't not of the UK tax payers doing or fault! we do have the funds to give others who have not paid into out Tax system as yet ?.
Ukrainian families supported into own homes with £150m funding
• Funding will be allocated across England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland, helping support Ukrainian families are supported into their own homes.The Mind boggles at how we can have the funds for others to get a home when we have plenty here UK born living on the streets let alone ex troops in cardboard homes in squalid
The UK should be getting its own homeless sorted first and find the funds to pay nurses and trainee doctors a living!
My sunny day rant .
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