Knives - what's really in the price

KB1

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Know v little about hunting knives and there seems to be an endless collection of brands out there. Prices range from £20 to a few hundred. What r u getting for the top price range and are they really worth it. I can understand the expensive Japanese kitchen knives that get used every day but can't imagine the hunting knife coming out of it's sheath as often.
Keen to hear people's thoughts on this
 
For knife, read shotgun. You can get a perfectly serviceable shotgun for, say, £150. But if you want (and can afford it) you are able to buy a shotgun for upwards of £50,000. What's the difference, they'll do the same job? The more expensive gun will be a unique hand made work of art, giving the owner pleasure in it's ownership. It may also be an investment. Certainly it might work a bit better than the £150 gun, but that will only be a fraction of the price difference. What's more, if I had a £50k shotgun, I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be going out rough shooting with me too often.
 
I find that folks fall into 2 groups , one just look at a knife as a working tool and so long as it does work they are happy, then there are folks like me that also want knives to function at top level but get a thrill from the pleasing looks of the knife and like all things you do tend to get what you pay for . An expencive knife will be of top grade steal possably hand crafted or even made to your own spec.
I personaly look at some knives as pure beauty. I am currently putting knives together , that is buying blades and fitting handles,scales etc.I am also in the proccess of making blades from a farriers rasp.
One bit of advise I was given by an ex special service soldier turned survival expert was you should be able to trust your life to your knife and if you cant dont have it because you never know one day you may need to.
Tusker
 
A well fitting knife is how your best fitting rifle should be, an extension of your arm, I use a knife for work everyday, a folder not a custom, but a high end one, the handle fits like a glove, opens with ease, stays sharp and is easy to sharpen.
My stalking knives are customs, this does not mean they have to be expensive, there are a lot of makers out there, you will get to know over time what will suit you, but if possible hold it before you buy.
 
A well fitting knife is how your best fitting rifle should be, an extension of your arm, I use a knife for work everyday, a folder not a custom, but a high end one, the handle fits like a glove, opens with ease, stays sharp and is easy to sharpen.
My stalking knives are customs, this does not mean they have to be expensive, there are a lot of makers out there, you will get to know over time what will suit you, but if possible hold it before you buy.

yep + 1 on that, make sure the one you get is fit for the purpose you want and it fits you and you like it.

Money does come into it, buy the best you can, making sure it is as above.

That way you will keep it and enjoy its company

good luck

Phil
 
A well fitting knife is how your best fitting rifle should be, an extension of your arm, I use a knife for work everyday, a folder not a custom, but a high end one, the handle fits like a glove, opens with ease, stays sharp and is easy to sharpen.
My stalking knives are customs, this does not mean they have to be expensive, there are a lot of makers out there, you will get to know over time what will suit you, but if possible hold it before you buy.

I agree. I'm not a knife snob but I've turned into a bit of a collector (albeit of working knives) by accident because I like knives. Or good ones anyway. I get pleasure form owning, using and maintaining good quality knives and so I buy carefully and look after them. For other people a knife is a mundane utility object to be used and abused, lost and cheaply replaced. If it cuts it'll do. It all depends which sort of knife user you are. There's no right or wrong to it. You will notice the difference between say a quality factory or affordable custom costing a couple of hundred pounds and a £20 cheapie. Whether that difference is important to you is a matter of personal taste. Its your knife and your money.
I particularly don't like cheap folders. Wobbly blades, dodgy locks, chocolate cutting edges and general bad design aren't worth having, IMO, and I threw many a naff folder away in disgust in the past before I learnt not to waste my money on them.
Having said that, high price doesn't necessarily guarantee high quality. Folders are a different ballgame to fixed blades and some manufacturers are much better at it than others. You need to know what to look for.
 
I like to use a nice knife. Yes a Mora will serve you well and do the job just fine, but there is something about using a quality handmade knife fit for purpose.
I am currently using a Phil Wilson Smoke Creek in CPM S90V steel.
The light weight and balance makes it a dream to use. The steel is amazing cuts very well and holds an edge longer than anything else I ever owned.
 
Does sound like it comes down to the desire to own a quality piece of metal, which is understandable. How about the function though. I think of the hunting/stalking knife as the tool to perform the gralloch. I've yet to actually do one but on my last stalk I shot a Roe and the PH used a blade, gut hook and saw to perform the gralloch. Wouldn't you need all 3 of these to perform such a task. Which leads to the question, would you not want to have all 3 of them as part of the knife, rather than 3 separate tools you have to lug around with you?
 
Does sound like it comes down to the desire to own a quality piece of metal, which is understandable. How about the function though. I think of the hunting/stalking knife as the tool to perform the gralloch. I've yet to actually do one but on my last stalk I shot a Roe and the PH used a blade, gut hook and saw to perform the gralloch. Wouldn't you need all 3 of these to perform such a task. Which leads to the question, would you not want to have all 3 of them as part of the knife, rather than 3 separate tools you have to lug around with you?

I use just one knife in the field. I've tried swingblades and gut hooks and such things and couldn't get on with them. For me, saws belong in the larder with the hooks and the apron. Don't use one in the field. Best gralloching knife I've used is the one I've got now. A Boker Recincho. Its long, slim, light and very dextrous. It seems to make the job easy which means it must fit me like Taff says a knife should and it takes and retains an edge superbly. When I go stalking I'd feel undressed without it.
 
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I have knives with gut hooks, but no saws never needed one, a good quality, sharp blade will split a breast bone easily on anything but the oldest of big fallow and reds, I don,t even use the cut hook now,as on fixed blades they can get in the way on anal removal, beware though knives are addictive.
 
I like to use a nice knife. Yes a Mora will serve you well and do the job just fine, but there is something about using a quality handmade knife fit for purpose.
I am currently using a Phil Wilson Smoke Creek in CPM S90V steel.
The light weight and balance makes it a dream to use. The steel is amazing cuts very well and holds an edge longer than anything else I ever owned.

Oooo nice knife !! Bugger to sharpen from dull I'm betting !

Regards

Ed
 
I have a fascination for nice knives even owning a nice Alan Wood but found a cheapo orange job from Bushwear does the job better !!
ATB Steve
 
Sorry, a gun and a knife are tools,
the guns got to shoot straight
and the knife has to be sharp and stay sharp

cheap is best....100_0009.webp

now if you like crafted items then thats another matter
 
I'd say try a few cheaper types, like mora or similar. Perhaps even a folder or 2. Different blade lengths etc. When you have tried a few found which you don't like which you do, which do the job well. Then either stick to this or most likely you'll find the knife is almost perfect but the blade is a bit wide, or slightly too long. Or the handle is too short, whatever. Then with all the knowledge you will have of what works best for you on the animals you use it on. Go out and find a good knife maker to make one for you. You'll love that knife and treasure it always. And it'll be your knife. Well that's what I'm currently doing anyway. ATB.
 
There are tons of facets to this discussion, which crops up regularly between friends when we're out on shoots or fishing.

The "guns/knives are tools" argument falls at the first fence for me since you can go into any auto store and buy a cheapie socket set or one that costs fortunes, so straight off the bat there are extremes of price point to take into account.

Brand often brings with it a perceived expectation of quality which can also be horribly off the mark.

A friend of mine has a folding knife branded 'Purdy' with a Damascus blade and it's a bag of crap in terms of fit and finish. I'd put money on it having nothing to do with Purdy other than having their moniker etched onto it after it was made.

Price is absolutely no guarantee of quality....

Where knives are concerned I think one of the biggest issues is the end user's ability to sharpen and look after the knife - loads of people twist about certain knives being rubbish when, in actual fact, they simply don't understand how to look after them properly.

Example:

The previously mentioned knife made from CPM S90V is incredibly wear resistant, as are most of the Crucible steels that are 'knife grade'.

I've lost count of the number of people I've met who just didn't know how or, crucially, when to strop/sharpen their knives and when they eventually tried to tussle with it, they blame the knife/steel/brand/maker for any difficulties experienced when sharpening.

In plain English, one of the most salient characteristics of a lot of the currently in vogue knife steels is high wear resistance. That means resistance to wear when sharpening, as well as in general use, so sharpening these steels can require a little more user input. This wear resistance is one of the greatest obstacles to overcome where most stainless and some carbon steels are concerned.

In my experience most folks are far to willing to condemn a product as rubbish when, often, there is absolutely nothing wrong with it.

Some folks have no problem recommending high end (and equally high price) optics, rifles, trigger/barrel/rings/mounts/moderators et al. For many people it's an unrealistic goal state to aim for and, for others, they don't feel they have 'arrived' until they buy into such products.

The best (neatest) field butchery job I ever saw was done by a vet with a Swiss Army knife.

I have to work slower with a Mora than with certain other knives, because of its profile, thickness and grind. Yes, I can get the job done with one and, for the asking price, they are hard to criticise, but they are far from ideal.

If you can make it work then whatever it is is OK. Having tried lots of options over the years I have found things that make the job much easier and efficient for me, so that's what I stick with.

I can shoot straight with an out of the box gun but I'd rather shoot one with a trigger job and a few other tweaks. It doesn't have to have high end glass but I would rather mid range than entry level, if I had the luxury of choice.

Same with knives.

I prefer small, thin and sharp, and for most game processing I find anything with a blade over 3.5" a hindrance. Given the choice I would rather 3" or slightly under, but whatever works is all good :)
 
best knife I own for stalking,
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can you have one no, it is the only one, and cost less than £70.
 
best knife I own for stalking,
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can you have one no, it is the only one, and cost less than £70.

Now that's nice - the design looks very safe with no chance of the forefinger slipping forward, and the profile puts the point and front half of the edge a lot further down and forward than on most.

Love the hint of old time American regarding the handle material and pin arrangement :)
 
Sorry, a gun and a knife are tools,
the guns got to shoot straight
and the knife has to be sharp and stay sharp

cheap is best....View attachment 38689

now if you like crafted items then thats another matter

I have that and a pair of utility/garden scissors (pelvis and breastbone).... My everyday knife is one of the big box store specials with a knife blade and a second blade (?) that takes the utility knife razors....
 
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