Lead and mercury in food

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I think I must be amazing and one of the world's biggest consumers of lead. Amazing that I have survived to be an octogenarian.
I started my lead consumption by licking the paint off my cot and enjoying.it, all our water came through lead pipes (still does). For a number of years eating rabbits and pigeons shot with lead four or five times a week. At school we sucked lead pencils and I regularly had my lead toy soldiers in my mouth, commercially bought and cast by my father.
I then got to shooting everything myself and for nearly seventy years I have eaten mostly venison, rabbits and game, all shot with lead.
Could one of the anti lead experts enlighten me as to why I ain't dead of lead poisoning.🤔

 
Why do you think they no longer use mercuric amalgam fillings?

Why do we no longer use lead paint?

Why do we no longer use lead in solders, water pipes, petrol etc etc?
Its a matter of proportionality, personally I shall look forward to using the non toxic lead used in airgun pellets, rimfire and olympic shot ammunition
 
Stomach acids are really pretty strong acid - similar ph to the acid in a lead acid car battery. The reactivity of lead to acids is indeed why its used in batteries.
Wrong!
Lead in batteries does not dissolve. Lead is extremely impervious to acid, hence why it is used in a battery.
 
I'm doing ok so far!
Me too, although I suspect I may have been a certifiable genius before I got the .22/250.
When you have a very high start point its hard to graph the decline on a standard test.
The kids and grandkids are doing OK too..
But I’m not eating any more of it, just in case.
Suppose they’re right?
I could end up average.
 
Wrong!
Lead in batteries does not dissolve. Lead is extremely impervious to acid, hence why it is used

So pray tell how does a lead acid battery work then if lead doesn’t react with the sulphuric acid to release electron and make lead sulphates which are taken into solution and then deposited on the other plates. And when recharging the process is reversed.
 
I would hazard a guess that the general population of the country eats more tonnes of tuna than game meat per annum?
Interesting article thanks for sharing.
Published and read on it's own, it might put people off what is essentially a healthy food choice.

I think it would be interesting for the FSA to publish a scale of 1 to 10.
1 being the least harmful to health
10 the most.

Then position articles Like this one on that scale, to set it in context along with other lifestyle choices, like:
Smoking.
Drinking too much.
Being overweight
Ultra processed food
Lack of exercise
etc.


As an aside..
I was diagnosed with Prostate Cancer some years back. ( all ok now).
But what stuck in my mind was the discussion about treatment options.
In brief:
It's a relatively slow Cancer.
There is risk of unpleasant side effects of treatment.
For some people * the best option is to do nothing " watch and wait". Thus avoiding the side affects .

For othere ** surgery us the best option.

The difference between * and **, was an evaluation of the current lifestyle and health.
Basically some in the * group would die of other things before the prostrate Cancer killed them.
And thus why make the last few years worse with risk of the side effects.
My consultant even had a graph, effectively plotting different lifestyles and expected life span, to help me make a decision.


It was a very surreal conversation.
Fortunately I was in **, and had surgery.
And the principle has influenced many of my other decisions since then.

M
 
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So pray tell how does a lead acid battery work then if lead doesn’t react with the sulphuric acid to release electron and make lead sulphates which are taken into solution and then deposited on the other plates. And when recharging the process is reversed.
You are talking about electrolysis.
Maybe if some one rigs another fixed scientific test with a cathode shoved up someone's azz and an anode rammed down their throat after pouring a pound of shot into them and flick a switch it might work enough to scare the **** out of some....
In the meantime I'm not aware, unless some one can enlighten me, that there is electrolysis going on in a mammals gut.
 
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You are talking about electrolysis.
Maybe if some one rigs another fixed scientific test with a cathode shoved up someone's azz and an anode rammed down their throat after pouring a pound of shot into them and flick a switch it might work enough to scare the **** out of some....
In the meantime I'm not aware, unless some one can enlighten me, that there is electrolysis going on in a mammals gut.
Ph of Stomach acid between 1.5 and 3.5. Lead is reactive to acids - that is why it’s used in batteries. Electrolysis involves chemical reactions. Its basic science.

Try googling “lead dissolving in stomach acids”. I quote from paper below.

“Foreign body ingestion is seen commonly in paediatric surgical practice and the vast majority of ingested foreign bodies will pass spontaneously once they have made their way into the stomach. Lead foreign body ingestion in children represents a special case in view of the potential for acute lead intoxication secondary to dissolution and absorption of the ingested lead. Lead dissolves poorly in physiological solutions with the exception of the acid environment of the stomach.”

 
Ph of Stomach acid between 1.5 and 3.5. Lead is reactive to acids - that is why it’s used in batteries. Electrolysis involves chemical reactions. Its basic science.

Try googling “lead dissolving in stomach acids”

I think we are more reactive over lead!

Don't eat lead then, use the right bullet.
Simples.
My deer yesterday head shot, no one is eating lead.
I use a 3030 that doesn't explode it's bullets.
There, a non reactive sensible approach 👍🏻
 
A rich friend tells me if you squeeze swordfish and see the mercury oozing out if you look closely. So he avoids eating it too often.

Not sure if he was trolling or not..in any case eating swordfish is not a problem I have to deal with
 
Me too, although I suspect I may have been a certifiable genius before I got the .22/250.
When you have a very high start point its hard to graph the decline on a standard test.
The kids and grandkids are doing OK too..
But I’m not eating any more of it, just in case.
Suppose they’re right?
I could end up average.
Choosing a .22-250 in itself renders the hypothesis somewhat flawed. The presupposition of greater intelligence levels prior to purchase seems to be at odds with the decision as to calibre choice, the more so if the resultant venison is to be considered for consumption.

Conversely, the choice of .222 would obviate such risks, as well as reinforcing the ‘inherent intelligence level’ found in the patient in the case study… 🫣😂👍🏻
 
Why do you think they no longer use mercuric amalgam fillings?
I had one fitted two weeks ago on the NHS. As unerringly accurate as always.
Why do we no longer use lead paint?

Why do we no longer use lead in solders, water pipes, petrol etc etc?
Because they are all very much more toxic and much greater sources of exposure than lead ammunition. As any fool who didn't sleep through their GCSE science lessons knows perfectly well. This is more stupid and painful than dealing with flat-earthers.
 
Choosing a .22-250 in itself renders the hypothesis somewhat flawed. The presupposition of greater intelligence levels prior to purchase seems to be at odds with the decision as to calibre choice, the more so if the resultant venison is to be considered for consumption.
The decision was made for me courtesy of a Justice Minister who was convinced that he was targeted for assassination and removed all handguns and rifles above .22 calibre from public ownership.
It took 2 high court actions and 20 years to get our stuff back.
The choice of .22/250 was therefor a logical, rational and intelligent response to the situation, the abandonment of “best practice” in favour of neck shots was absolutely inspired.
In fact it was so inspired that I’m still doing it over 30 years after the initial rational was rendered irrelevant by access to bigger caliber rifles. This brings me to the inevitable conclusion that “best practice” isn’t actually best.
Conversely, the choice of .222 would obviate such risks, as well as reinforcing the ‘inherent intelligence level’ found in the patient in the case study… 🫣😂👍🏻
As above, the .222 was determined to be above .22 calibre and therefor illegal, the .22/250, .220 Swift and sundry 5.6 cartridges were all legal.
I have no doubt that you are quite correct and the .222 would have been perfect, but when you base your standard of perfection on flat trajectory, accuracy, energy and disintegrating bullets, the .22/250 is very hard to beat.
I accept that my sample size is very small, and that therefore my conclusions are open to challenge, however, like the lead ammunition advocates, I’m just going to disregard any evidence that doesn’t suit me.
 
Why do you think they no longer use mercuric amalgam fillings?

Except they do still use amalgam fillings. Very widely actually.
Why do we no longer use lead paint?

Why do we no longer use lead in solders, water pipes, petrol etc etc?

Even if you believe we no longer use lead in paint, petrol and solders, where do you think the tens of millions of tonnes previously used have gone?
Lead is still present in all petrol (with higher amounts still in avgas), paint (mostly third world manufacture, but exported worldwide), solders (particularly industrial applications), and literally 1000's of other products that rely on its properties.
Approximately 6 million tonnes of lead disappears into the environment every year. 1 ton per year of centrefire ammunition spread over game and vermin in the UK is the least of anyones worries.
 
Despite my fears for how this thread may evolve based on past discussions about lead shot and bullet restrictions I think the following articles are worth bringing to the debate. First a food standards agency paper on lead exposure in pregnancy:


And an article about mercury content in fish, particularly tinned tuna:


I would hazard a guess that the general population of the country eats more tonnes of tuna than game meat per annum?

Discuss…

(Puts on tin hat🪖)

Minamata Bay ?

Classic case of industrial mercury poisoning

J
 
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