timbrayford
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The lead sulphate corrosion caused by acid rain is soluble
Lead ban by Autumn 2023 - Cut and Pasted from Pigeon Watch
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shakey jake
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do we still have high sulphur content in the air?
isnt most fuel sulphur free now
That's what the government is telling you, they also say electric cars are non polluting.
Another joke
Quite evidently, you don’t understand what the graph shows. The graph proves what the actual exposure to lead in food is, and that therefore the claim that banning lead ammunition is driven by food safety is false.
This argument is both wrong and completely absurd. Game meat is a small part of people’s diet, not least because it is impossible for it to be a large part of the population’s diet. You simply cannot have an equal amount of game meat to potato in the human food chain. Explain where you would get 6.8 million tonnes of game meat in the UK to match potato consumption.
Contrary to your assertion, the graph does show what the actual exposure to lead from game meat is. You’ve based an argument around the fantasy that it makes sense to pretend that exposure to lead in game meat is much higher than it really is, and make policy on that basis. On the same basis, carrots would be fatal. Do you think carrots ought to be made illegal? I’d presume you think that’s a ridiculous idea. It is.
In history, how many schools have had issues with ill health of pupils due to lead in the water?
How many issues due to copper solution in the water? 2 - Coatbridge 2018 and 300m of piping had to be replaced.
shakey jake
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how many schools have lead water pipes?
also how many houses have copper pipes and no ill effects?
Triggermortis
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The .410’s are used in a pistol for close up dispatch and the 20g slugs for distance, I’m not an advocate for .22lr’s for large animals unless no other option is available on the day, I just need an alternative for the lead slugs.
Maybe there’ll be an exemption for use in dispatch situations?
Correct, but still toxic. So by the by really isn't it
Try cutting your hand on a piece of copper pipe and see how long it takes to go bad.
timbrayford
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I have eaten shot rabbits, pigeons and game on a regular basis for 70+ years. Venison three or four times a week for 50+ years. I've even been shot, but at 80+ it doesn't seem to have had much effect apart from initial damage to flesh and bone which is still painful.
It's all a load of codswallop, still drinking what they call water from lead pipes and more worried about what Anglia put in the water.
It's death by the thousand cuts a la government. End of story.
It's all a load of codswallop, still drinking what they call water from lead pipes and more worried about what Anglia put in the water.
It's death by the thousand cuts a la government. End of story.
I was being ironic as .22 will become redundant too….
Not really, the scale is massively differentCorrect, but still toxic. So by the by really isn't it
Not noted here but in America, there are concerns about the lead solder used in piping and it contaminating the water.
Just out of interest,.probably London is mainly copper water pipes. Just musing but sewage discharges into rivers is rife everywhere. Big sewage works at Slough but downstream at Hampton water is extracted from same river for human consumption, filled with chemicals and pumped round the ringmain. Nothing said.
Now the govt and many people on here are spouting on about miniscule lead poisoning from shot meat, you really couldn't write it as a comedy.
It's time for another series of Yes Prime Minister.
Now the govt and many people on here are spouting on about miniscule lead poisoning from shot meat, you really couldn't write it as a comedy.
It's time for another series of Yes Prime Minister.
The saying used to be that by the time the water in the Thames reaches the estuary, it has passed through 7 people from its source.
Why folks who have no real experience with the alternatives talk such crap, i seriously dont know !
I can run 50 grain ECX from hornady just fine in a 1-12 twist 223 rem
I gave up lead in the 12 bore years ago , i have killed a heck of a lot of Geese and duck with steel shot for a lot of years on the foreshore, Foxes ? Well i will say it as it is " Steel is better by a fair way " only factor is steel just wont get you fluke single pellet kills . Put the charge is the right spot as there are no fliers to speak of .
22 LR and std 1-16 twist RF are going to be tough to get the accuracy. 22 air likewise but there is nobody buying and no need for manufactures to make good money making it yet .
There was nothing to motivate the market into working with some stuff . Myself i will likely miss the 22 hornet but i bought it a good while back and i can always re-barrel at some point if nothing ammo wise works , 22 LR is one of if not the biggest money maker for the ammo makers- so trust me things are going to happen ! Very , very few have big money wrapped up in a bunny bashing 22 lr and target guys are getting to keep lead once they have correct lead recovery systems in place .
There is no Win to be had from keeping lead , it will just be a big stick to beat us with
I can run 50 grain ECX from hornady just fine in a 1-12 twist 223 rem
I gave up lead in the 12 bore years ago , i have killed a heck of a lot of Geese and duck with steel shot for a lot of years on the foreshore, Foxes ? Well i will say it as it is " Steel is better by a fair way " only factor is steel just wont get you fluke single pellet kills . Put the charge is the right spot as there are no fliers to speak of .
22 LR and std 1-16 twist RF are going to be tough to get the accuracy. 22 air likewise but there is nobody buying and no need for manufactures to make good money making it yet .
There was nothing to motivate the market into working with some stuff . Myself i will likely miss the 22 hornet but i bought it a good while back and i can always re-barrel at some point if nothing ammo wise works , 22 LR is one of if not the biggest money maker for the ammo makers- so trust me things are going to happen ! Very , very few have big money wrapped up in a bunny bashing 22 lr and target guys are getting to keep lead once they have correct lead recovery systems in place .
There is no Win to be had from keeping lead , it will just be a big stick to beat us with
I'm just putting the lead back where the Romans mined it from.
@hendrix's rifle you may laugh but copper is actually Necessary and beneficial to human health, in fact there is a recommended minimum daily intake. The level that it becomes toxic is way beyond anything you are going to get from bullet fragments, unless you are swallowing them whole on a daily basis.
There is NO safe level for lead ingestion, it stays and accumulates in the human body, while copper is excreted
There is NO safe level for lead ingestion, it stays and accumulates in the human body, while copper is excreted
Along with London's sewage, ingested and excreted many times. Another little factor is the oestragen from ladies were wee recirculates as well, through men. Down the loo and into the potable water supply via the treatment works and river.
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