They are great for shooting passing passerine's at extreme hight, eg 100-120m but no good for most things as the velocity etc is well down.How I discovered the Metri:
Me to RFD: 'Shame slugs are a separate slot, as I already have an FAC shotgun and forgot to ask for them'
RFD: 'Try these...'
They have as have a lot of other gun makers. I have a 3.5" ou built in 1989 for wildfowling.
indeed and 45yards is probably a good distance for most shooters especially when decoying pigeon given the aim is to bring them to the gun. However 40/45 yards on “proper“ game shoots is where most would say a sporting bird starts from going up to what 60,70 or 80 yards or more for the guns that do extreme game shoots. At theses distances steel would not deliver the energy and pattern without going to what BB shot in heavy pay loads in HP cartridges, HP are no fun to shoot in quantity in my experience.
For me I would and do rather spend 50 quid on a slab of cartridges than on one high pheasant as you get far more range of shots in a days pigeon shooting than on a driven day..
when did you last buy a slab of cartridges for £50 mind you pheasants this year are also reaching new heights in price.
Well I was given 500 hull 30gm paper cased fibre in 6's for shooting muntjac for a game shooter in his 25 acre garden..
Yes agree re a day on the pigeons.
Guns that can afford extreme game days will probably not worry if they have to buy tungsten based shot cartridges in fact they will probably see it as justification to push the distance even higher. The cartridge being the cheapest part of the days shootng.
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I’d used yewtree before even working up a load for my own rifles.A friend was involved in the test of these bullets in varying calibres.I respected his findings hence why I’m asking here other folks findings and thoughts regarding steel shot.I’m genuinely not interested in the I once slept with a bloke that knew a man info just proper real life hands on experience.
Pigeon is a soft feathered bird compared to a late season cock pheasant comparison
You can do penetration testing if you are really concerned. Choose a distance, choose a medium to shoot and shoot youe favourite lead load then compare at the same range with steel.
They are not just it seems the forth coming change to the 50/60 pound high bird market is going to interesting.
The CIP specs really aren't as bad as many think. IIRC the max allowed velocity at 2.5 metres from the muzzle is about 1450 fps - that translates to a muzzle velocity of about 1500 fps. That is plenty fast enough for virtually anything you care to shoot with a shotgun, and arguably it's getting into the velocity region where your patterns fall apart. I can't recall seeing a good pattern from a shell doing >1500 fps.
Even with steel shot the patterns start degrading pretty rapidly when the velocities get into the >1450 ish fps. You can get away with higher velocities out of a 10 bore than with a 12, but as the bore size decreases the patterns also tend to get worse at any given velocity. As counter intuitive as it may seem, if you want good "long-range" performance (40 yards and greater), bump your shot sizes and payloads up and keep the velocity around 1350 + 50 fps.
Well in fairness to steel, its hardness does help to compensate for its reduced density. The case capacity of the smaller bores is unfortunately such that you're stuck with the smaller shot sizes which is not where steel performs well.I think you have perfectly described the limitations of steel shot.
