lease holders and stupid rules

[jimbo1984]

Been invited to join a few syndicates in the past but certain rules and unanswered questions about the numbers of stalkers on the ground have made me leave them well alone , lucky to have several bits of ground of my own which I do let mates on but do insist they phone me to let me know where they're going for safety reasons

 

[Scotty99]

Sound to me like the leaseholder may have sold this to more than one syndicate.

 

[slider]

Sound to me like the leaseholder may have sold this to more than one syndicate.

What make you think that - perfectly sensible a safety originated to have control over who is on when.

 

[howy308]

Me and a pal was in a syndicate up near Blairgowrie and it was run by Neil Gavin who charged us £800 plus vat and we found out that he was letting others on for £500 total. We only found out by chance, a syndicate member came on the ground without booking in and it all came out. He is faulty.

 

[Stevie/P]

Cant believe your realy asking this question?

1: Need to inform the land owner in advance. One land owner I deal with wants a list of days not less than 1 month in advance. The land has other users aside from deer stalking so we need to coordinate around this as well

2: Need to coordinate other member in terms of where and when they can shoot

3: Need to know for security reasons

4: Need to plan the cull so may restrict number of days and dates


Personally, seeing as i run a syndicate and manage 5 areas of land for shooting. Id say if you find a syndicate with no rules, avoid it like the plague as its not run properly and is likely to end in tears

not so just means nothing to hide to many rules only confuses things. was on a lease nr corsock years ago that had a list of rule found out by accident like has been said that the lease holder was taking out paying stalkers so of course he wanted to know who was on the ground and when. my post is just a general comment on what can go wrong with syndicates im sure there are plenty of honest lease holders with the best interests of the stalkers and land owners.

 

[ashray]

i was a syndicate member of a stalking group in romsey hampshire,always had to give notice when going out found out that the owners son in law had sold the stalking to a group of chinese hunters and hunters from finland as well as five of us! the owner was not happy as the son in law was pocketing the money .i left at the end of the contract.

 

[foxhunter]

Quite common I think , Ive heard of a few lease holders in Scotland who will only take English stalkers who have to book in advance , therefore can stalk it themselves or put another local syndicate on it or take out clients by the day.

 

[Boghossian]

Ed,
I believe you and I were members on the same syndicate. The last lease holder well and truly took the **** out of you and many others, 38 members on 1000 acres turned out to be very dangerous. I would not discredit you by telling you of the nickname you had been given by the lease holder. There was absolutely no way that the then lease holder would have signed a new lease, there had been as irreversible breakdown in the relationship. There was plenty going on that you knew little about. I bid strong money on the lease, very strong money, even went as far as being invited to meet with the elderly owners. I was not successful because I did not come from the right background, or work in the city. The conditions put on the new lease holder were not easy for him to operate under. And I believe the lease is shortly about to be marketed again.

I am now currently on a lease of 17500 acres where the estate employs a Deer Manager. A syndicate members we can stalk 365 days a year and the syndicate is small enough and the estate large enough that we could all be out on the same day without any dramas. I phone the Deer Manager for one of two reasons; either for me to ask 'can I go to such a place as Ive seen a meddle buck I would like on my wall, or as I tend to I call him and ask where he needs me to be, as in where is my is my skill best put to use, forestry and agriculture wise. I have no issue in using a booking in system, The syndicate has a contract but apart from that I can can phone the lease holder, and get an honest reply to any question I may have.

Regards Ed

That sounds like a very serious piece of ground for the south of England. Glad you have some quality stalking sorted Ed. I hear on the grapevine that the city fat cat actually ended up extending the lease for an extended period because he enjoyed his stalking so much! Peace out boys.