Lying Buck.

[jackselby3000]

Hi Guys,
I wonder if anyone can help. I consider myself relatively experienced stalker but today have been left utterly defeated. I took a freind on his first outing after completing DSC1 and picking up his new rifle. We stalked up on a number of lovely does but only as we were about to give up did we find the Buck I was looking for. From our elevated position it was too windy for a shot so we crawled to a better more sheltered firing point. The Buck was lying down in long grass only leaving it's head visible. As his first Buck I was eager to get him a kill. Sadly the buck did not move. We tried a whistle, a click, a clap and I even tried walking up wind of him. He merely lay there. In the end I walked towards him and he spooked and without a pause he was gone. I knew after 20 mins trying to get him standing this would happen but we could not have simply waited as we might have ended up still there now. Does anyone know of a tip to get a stubborn buck to stand but not bolt that I did not already try? J

 

[trouble]

put your hat on a stick and lift it up so he can see it

 

[EMcC]

Shout in a very loud voice - Ah-Ten-Shun !!!! and then say "Stand still you horrible looking Buck"

 

[6pointer]

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[jackselby3000]

Thanks all, that's what I thought would be reply. Sadly as we'd been out 6 hrs already we had no choice to wait. I'd probably have just come home myself if the whistle had not worked. I've done the Hat trick to move hinds in scotland but in this case even walking about really close and making noise did not do the trick. Thanks for suggestions. I just hope my friend can find another morning before I get the urge to go out after it myself.

 

[DC .270]

I sing Bob Marley's 'get up stand up' increasing in volume!

 

[stone]

I've done everything I can think of in these such circumstances except sit there and wait all day
Here's a clip of a Doe that was just as stubborn

We had stalked into this Doe till the point (about 80m's), where my mate was comfortable to take a shot and did not feel getting any closer would of benefitted the situation, we were already in full view and had been trying for about 5 mins to get her to stand before I started to film
I even walked out into the field 20m's waving my arms and whistling , at one point I danced a bit of a jig
but still no joy

 

[WAYNE DAVIES]

If I'm in a hurry(impatent) I sometimes use a buttalo I find it useful for stopping deer even when Its not the time of year to call with it but as it has been said the surest way is to wait.
I had my German mate over and I wanted to use the buttalo to get a buck to stand he nearly had a fit and made me wait in case I scared his "monster buck"off he made me wait and he was right.

 

[trouble]

Bark at it

 

[mj robson]

"bark at it"

I'm surprised it's taken 9 posts for someone to put this up!

 

[jackselby3000]

Tried the Bark first. I can't help but wonder if he was deaf. I'll check him once I have got him. If I'd been on the back of the boom-stick I'd have taken the shot from our elevated viewing point but as it was his first stalk I felt he should do it right.

 

[Roedinator]

jack first off give yourself a pat on the back for trying to get your mate an engine room shot
even though you were keen to get him a buck if you had allowed the shot it could have gone
horribly wrong .

I was in a near exactly the same position a couple of weeks back a good friend invited me out to christen
the new rifle put me onto a very good medal head led down 110 yds off a bipod all that was visible was his
head so the shot was not on .
my mate tried everything bark white hanky on his stick etc last resort tried as the light was going
tried walking down the field to get him to stand buck was up in a flash and dissapeared into the wood
thats stalking im afraid you win some you lose some
regards pete .

 

[bogtrotter]

Waiting is the best option, will usually stand within 45 Min's, 99 out of a 100 Bucks will stand within that time Will often just stand and stretch and lay down again but usually long enough to get a shot, doesn't help much if the light is going of course.

 

[craigievarkiller]

Famous west highland head stalker showed me the art of waving the white hanky. Gets the stags to stand every time

 

[bambislayer]

WAIT.

All the above will work BUT there is always the chance they will pop up & p*** off!

Especially if they are stubborn, just because they aren't getting up, doesn't mean they aren't sensing you are there. I've messed up plenty, because of impatience, you can always head shoot, but that would cause untold procrastination

 

[JabaliHunter]

Patience...

 

[bewsher500]

100gn soft point whistling over his head might get him up!

 

[fizzbangwhallop]

Bewsher's solution has just reminded me of a buck I tried that on in Scotland a few years ago.......... didn't work! Lol! Despite putting it into a tree just behind him, didn't bat an eyelid and just a singe twitch of an ear. He did eventually stand up and present a shot though.

I'm convinced they drift off into a world of their own, possibly asleep with their eyes open - human hearing switches 'off' when you fall asleep, at least my tinnitus does and I tend to sleep through thunderstorms.

On another occasion up near Newton Stewart a friend of my father's was zeroing his rifle, fired 6 or so shots, backwards and forwards to the target, having finished he carried on over the fence behind the target onto the stalking ground to find a fox sound asleep within 40yards. Shot the fox but I can't remember if he saw any deer!

 

[bogtrotter]

Agreed they seem to drift off, but is a known fact that Roe very rarely actually sleep.

 

[Blaser R93]

wait 30min, wehn out of time (darknes) bark at it. But beware that he is not comming running in wehn your are barking.
Barking works also vergood wehn there are walking.