Mange on sika hind?

[JH83]

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Sika culled recently, had this on its rear leg, never seen anything quite like it. Very healthy deer, fat as a pig, pregnant. Thoughts? I can confirm that it will not enter the food chain.

 

[VSS]

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Sika culled recently, had this on its rear leg, never seen anything quite like it. Very healthy deer, fat as a pig, pregnant. Thoughts? I can confirm that it will not enter the food chain.

Why won't it enter the food chain?
You say it's healthy and fat.
You haven't opened it up to check internals & lymph nodes, which are quite likely to be fine.
I don't see that a few sore patches around it's arse is sufficient reason to condemn it without further investigation.

 

[JH83]

Why won't it enter the food chain?
You say it's healthy and fat.
You haven't opened it up to check internals & lymph nodes, which are quite likely to be fine.
I don't see that a few sore patches around it's arse is sufficient reason to condemn it without further investigation.

The head stalker decided to use it, just not send it into the game stealers

In any event that’s a decision to be made and is pretty subjective, a nasty parasite like mange that could be transferable to people, whilst not exactly lethal, is a fair thing to be concerned over.

 

[VSS]

The head stalker decided to use it, just not send it into the game stealers

Ah, that makes more sense
I'd have done the same, if all else was ok with it.

 

[JH83]

Ah, that makes more sense
I'd have done the same, if all else was ok with it.

We usually take anything badly shot, that might be knocked down at the GD’s. It will be a great freezer filler!

 

[Dunwaters]

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Sika culled recently, had this on its rear leg, never seen anything quite like it. Very healthy deer, fat as a pig, pregnant. Thoughts? I can confirm that it will not enter the food chain.

Something wrong there, the wounds that cut through the fat at the knee and groin all the way down to bare muscle tissue shouldn’t be associated with the hair loss on one leg unless it was an RTA?
If the injuries were caused by an external parasite, what caused the tissue damage?

 

[VSS]

Something wrong there, the wounds that cut through the fat at the knee and groin all the way down to bare muscle tissue shouldn’t be associated with the hair loss on one leg unless it was an RTA?
If the injuries were caused by an external parasite, what caused the tissue damage?

Self inflicted by chewing.
That would be a reasonable guess, if the cause is indeed mange.

 

[Strike]

Are you absolutely sure it's mange?
Is there a possibility that it may be damage due to a dog attack?

 

[Dunwaters]

Self inflicted by chewing.
That would be a reasonable guess, if the cause is indeed mange.

You may be right but…. I can’t see any animal eating its own genitalia and a bit of the back leg though the skin and fat right down to the muscle in just 2 areas unless there was severe irritation limited to those specific areas.
I’ve never seen mange so localised or severe.

 

[JH83]

Self inflicted by chewing.
That would be a reasonable guess, if the cause is indeed mange.

I did wonder about chewing

 

[JH83]

Something wrong there, the wounds that cut through the fat at the knee and groin all the way down to bare muscle tissue shouldn’t be associated with the hair loss on one leg unless it was an RTA?
If the injuries were caused by an external parasite, what caused the tissue damage?

It could have been an RTA she was close to a road, no fences nearby so not hung in a fence I wouldn’t think, but to my eye it’s either mange or been chewing/licking…maybe both

 

[Buchan]

I'd be surprised if that was mange causing that degree of trauma in such a specific place and with no hair loss anywhere else. I'm wondering if this has been a dog chasing it and getting in a couple of bites that haven't healed. Was the other side affected or just the left? Wondering if some damage to the urethra has led to urine dribbling and scaling the skin. See this in some RTA cats/dogs that lose bladder control.
Odd one

 

[Strike]

It could have been an RTA she was close to a road, no fences nearby so not hung in a fence I wouldn’t think, but to my eye it’s either mange or been chewing/licking…maybe both

Further to my previous reply.
I've shown the picture to a farmer friend and he seemed to think, as I do, dog attack. Difficult to be sure from the photo, but he says its typical of damage done to Ewes, (the ones that get awsy that is)by dog attacks.

 

[JH83]

I'd be surprised if that was mange causing that degree of trauma in such a specific place and with no hair loss anywhere else. I'm wondering if this has been a dog chasing it and getting in a couple of bites that haven't healed. Was the other side affected or just the left? Wondering if some damage to the urethra has led to urine dribbling and scaling the skin. See this in some RTA cats/dogs that lose bladder control.
Odd one

You can see the full extent in this picture. It might well be a dog, they often latch on the back end, but the area isn’t walked at all and is essentially a swamp so dreadful for running dogs….but it’s certainly possible she’s wandered elsewhere and been whalloped. Thanks.

 

[SikaSeeker]

Lynx?

 

[VSS]

Lynx?

Bound to be. Or a wolf. Or even a tiger. You never know what's out there, do you? Whatever it was, it was probably black.

 

[SikaSeeker]

Bound to be. Or a wolf. Or even a tiger. You never know what's out there, do you? Whatever it was, it was probably black.

Black bumper of a Citroen Berlingo

 

[Bowland blades]

Its not a Lynx as they do not course down large deer , instead they sneak in and bite the underside on the neck and hang on with mouth and claw till the beast drops from blood loss or suffocation . Dogs run the Beast and grab from behind near always , a large dog and a "smaller" deer some dogs do sometimes jump onto the Beast from behind .
All guess work after the fact though .
Watch how big cats work as a single animal that outweighs them by a large amount , Most large dogs will course deer unless they are taught not to of course and your average dog owner struggles with getting walking to heel and a sound reliable recall .
As regards the meat ? Personally if i am not certain , it doesn't go into the human food chain
As for mange ? I should expect less very local wounding and far more area of damage