Thoughts on mange / lice in roe

[Buchan]

Too small to be keds, I think. 1-2mm long. I assumed keds were mainly larger, 4-6mm or bigger?

The deer were out of a complex of gorse thickets where there are active fox dens, and I’ve seen deer lying up in the same sunny spots used by the foxes?

They are, so the fleas make sense, and the route. Fascinating

 

[Mungo]

So this thread made me realise I understood mange far less well than I thought. I hadn’t realised there were two main types (sarcoptic and demodectic), and that scabies in humans is just sarcoptic mange!

And that the one to worry about jumping species is sarcoptes.

Nothing like a bit of insomnia induced Wikipedia rabbit-holing.

 

[geoshot]

On some of the ground where I shoot regularly I've recently started to notice a few, just a few CWD with bald patches, typically on their neck or back. They're not fighting injuries as there's no sign of a wound, just bald patches, sometimes with thickened/darkened skin. Could this be linked to the fact that neighbouring properties have started to stock more sheep in the last couple of years? could the sheep be passing on mange of some sort to the deer?
Or is it just coincidence?
I must confess to blaming a lot of deer-related ills on sheep, I just hate having the little stink bombs anywhere near deer, and ticks seem to follow them everywhere too

 

[WW.]

So this thread made me realise I understood mange far less well than I thought. I hadn’t realised there were two main types (sarcoptic and demodectic), and that scabies in humans is just sarcoptic mange!

And that the one to worry about jumping species is sarcoptes.

Nothing like a bit of insomnia induced Wikipedia rabbit-holing.

And most people have demodex... Just at a.non problematic level usually. Eyebrows are the main site apparently.

 

[Mungo]

And most people have demodex... Just at a.non problematic level usually. Eyebrows are the main site apparently.

Thanks,

I itch even more now…

 

[Cootmeurer]

This conversation is making me itch

Me too. I managed to complete a minor in entomology many years ago and somehow never discovered keds. First one I saw the highlands, still scurrying about on a red that had already hung for a couple days, gave me fits.

Ticks, midges, black flies, mangy trapped canids, even red mites in a poultry house I could handle in a detached manner. Keds still bother me

 

[VSS]

Me too. I managed to complete a minor in entomology many years ago and somehow never discovered keds. First one I saw the highlands, still scurrying about on a red that had already hung for a couple days, gave me fits.

Ticks, midges, black flies, mangy trapped canids, even red mites in a poultry house I could handle in a detached manner. Keds still bother me

It's when you look in the mirror and see keds, several days after you last had contact with deer, that you really get the fits

 

[westrawdanny]

Buck shot last year he was 20kg and made silver medal couldn’t find anything wrong no abnormalities internals and lymph nodes all ok and no issues with eaten

 

[Mungo]

Me too. I managed to complete a minor in entomology many years ago and somehow never discovered keds. First one I saw the highlands, still scurrying about on a red that had already hung for a couple days, gave me fits.

Ticks, midges, black flies, mangy trapped canids, even red mites in a poultry house I could handle in a detached manner. Keds still bother me

There is definitely something actively sinister about them.

Fortunately, I shoot very few reds, so don’t see them often.