MANKIND'S SUICIDE
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John Gryphon
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In awe of the man BUT! He is a vegetarian ffs!
At least you can feed the cat to the ferrets, I suppose.
I've just watched a programme I recorded about the road rage killer Kenneth Noye that I recorded. Then I read through this thread again (glutton for punishment). I tend to be an optimist about people, even after a career interacting with an awful lot of bad people. I really do think that the great majority of the human race are nice, decent people who would help you rather than take advantage of you.
But because there's a great need to reduce the population, I've got a few suggestions......
But because there's a great need to reduce the population, I've got a few suggestions......
norcan
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In 80 years, in 2100 there will be 4,5 Billion Africans. Compared to 1,5 Billion today.
In Europe, there will be 630 million in 2100. Down from 750million today.
Climate change will make life much harder in Sub Saharan Africa.
All in all, more difficult to grow food, fresh water, etc etc etc...
This will result in a flood of immigrants north, to a more temperate climate and overrun Europe.
Either your Grandchildren will say:
My grandparents knew about climate change and did nothing for to long. Now we have to accept climate refugees..
Or..
My grandparents knew about climate change and did nothing for to long. We are going to build a wall and deny anybody entering Europe.
Which do you think it will be?
In Europe, there will be 630 million in 2100. Down from 750million today.
Climate change will make life much harder in Sub Saharan Africa.
All in all, more difficult to grow food, fresh water, etc etc etc...
This will result in a flood of immigrants north, to a more temperate climate and overrun Europe.
Either your Grandchildren will say:
My grandparents knew about climate change and did nothing for to long. Now we have to accept climate refugees..
Or..
My grandparents knew about climate change and did nothing for to long. We are going to build a wall and deny anybody entering Europe.
Which do you think it will be?
I believe that the Planet earth is a strange form of intelligence, it will rid itself of a parasite that gets too much. When the sum of the parasite exceeds that of the host, then there is only one answer. In the meantime the problems associated with carbon emissions can be solved eventually. The answer to the emissions are all around us, wind sea air, & the biggest one of all is water. A small swimming pool full of water contains enough hydrogen to power a small town. There already is a semiconductor that when exposed to nothing more than sunlight, converts water to oxygen & hydrogen. Unfortunately the life of the conductor is only a short time, & the device is very small. The potential is enormous, but perhaps the biggest problem is the unwillingness of the producers of fossil fuel to invest in a fuel that could be free. Imagine a pint of water heating your home, running your car. On a larger scale, making your steel fixing nitrogen for fertiliser etc. Check out Artificial leaf Electrolysis. For Green Hydrogen, Artificial Leaf Breathes Down Neck Of Electrolysis
Jamsie
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Take a look at Africa for example. I worked there for 10 years and have seen Nature going about its population control almost daily with all the tools at its disposal i.e. malaria, yellow fever, Cholera, droughts etc. It's what happens when there are too many mouths to feed and not enough resources or just plain old mismanagement. Nature is very adept at this kind of number reduction in locations such as Africa. Up here in Europe, we generally just have a war / conflict every now and again to achieve the same effect.
Jamsie
hunter243
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I agree.There's been volcano activity forest fires and fossil fuel being burned for millennium dinosaurs running a muck dropping turds every where gasses coming from all over and the closest you got to recycling was Fred Flintstones bone knife and fork! but all jokes aside we all do our bit in some way or another except for the big industries that pretend to
Man is undoubtedly contributing but on the trailer for his latest series he says 'our planet used to be perfect'. ????
Do we as a species deserve to have & live on this planet anyway, let’s face it (and I mean no one personally & there are some very kind / loving people around) but all we seem to do is fight, argue, deceive, are motivated by greed, have a **** you attitude so on & so on. We really don’t deserve it. ( Tin hat is on)
bluesako
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are you gonna volunteer first
I've grown bored of him and his doomsday message
All the solutions I've ever heard offered by the greenies and their ilk would not make a penny's worth of difference to the growing problem, but would make a huge difference to the freedoms I enjoy
I enjoy watching programs about, and talking to, those who have opted for an ''off the grid'' life style
A life style I have a great deal of empathy with
However they always have the world's biggest log pile and hunt to supplement their diet
I don't believe that 8 billion living a similar life style is remotely sustainable
What is on its way, I fear, are mental and physical urban and city prisons for us all
All in the name of the environment so that's alright then ?!?
All the solutions I've ever heard offered by the greenies and their ilk would not make a penny's worth of difference to the growing problem, but would make a huge difference to the freedoms I enjoy
I enjoy watching programs about, and talking to, those who have opted for an ''off the grid'' life style
A life style I have a great deal of empathy with
However they always have the world's biggest log pile and hunt to supplement their diet
I don't believe that 8 billion living a similar life style is remotely sustainable
What is on its way, I fear, are mental and physical urban and city prisons for us all
All in the name of the environment so that's alright then ?!?
Richard Parsons
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Use Barnes ammo and jog on.
They're already here. You only escape them with money.
So best park my plan to aquire and refurb’ a funky 300 rook rifle that can only accommodate pure lead heads and in so doing save the planet? I’m on board!
Anyone who doubts we are the engineers of our own demise c/o premature destruction of our environment but has an open enough mind to further consider the supporting evidence against our species should focus on but one word:
TIMESPAN
K
Anyone who doubts we are the engineers of our own demise c/o premature destruction of our environment but has an open enough mind to further consider the supporting evidence against our species should focus on but one word:
TIMESPAN
K
A Guy Out West
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Myself, I’m going to buy some T bone steaks at the local grocer tomorrow, they are on sale for $4.99 a pound. Gonna fry them in butter while downing about 3 fingers of Dewars.
Climate has never been static, multiple ice ages and global warmings in between. Whilst one cannot deny an increase in Greenhouse gases, massive increases have happened in the past with volcanic eruptions, impacts etc. Krakatoa precipitated a drop in global temperature in Victorian times with human casualties due to related very cold winters. The earth, whilst on a journey round the sun is also on a journey round its own inclined axis due to wobble and the orbit around the sun has eccentricities. All of these peturbations, lead to climate maxima or minima every 43,000 years or so apparently. The truth is we know what the atmosphere is comprised of but not where we ar, nor the effect of a multiple wobbling orbit. Its wise to be careful and control our consumption of resources.
The last ice age ended 12,000 years ago before that, much of the northern hemisphere was uninhabitable and in theory prevented the 'Clovis' people accessing the US via the link to the (now) Soviet Union. There was the tunguska air blast meteor explosion and the more recent 2013? one (you tube).I think a violent eruption in Iceland (overdue) will sort the problem as it will drop the global temperature by a good few degrees if its a big bang and lasts. Then there is always the meteorite impact - the one before the Tunguska blast destroyed 93 % of all the animal species on the earth (Younger Dryas)
Younger Dryas, also called Younger Dryas stadial, cool period between roughly 12,900 and 11,600 years ago that disrupted the prevailing warming trend occurring at the end of the Pleistocene Epoch (which lasted from 2.6 million to 11,700 years ago).
https://www.britannica.com/science/Younger-Dryas-climate-interval#:~:text=Younger Dryas, also called Younger,million to 11,700 years ago).
So are we obssessing over the most dangerous prospect to end life on earth - I dont think we are there are things far more dangerous and all likely to reduce global warming.
However, as with all aspects of modern society I do believe we are obsessing and hand wringing to excess.
Stop breeding and start living !
Another and final thought;
Though Krakatoa’s is far from the most powerful volcanic eruption in history (the eruption of nearby Tambora in 1815, for example, measured a 7 on the VEI), it’s arguably the most famous. Its 1883 eruption became the first truly global catastrophe, thanks to the recently installed worldwide telegraphic network, which instantly broadcast news of the eruption all over the world.
The last ice age ended 12,000 years ago before that, much of the northern hemisphere was uninhabitable and in theory prevented the 'Clovis' people accessing the US via the link to the (now) Soviet Union. There was the tunguska air blast meteor explosion and the more recent 2013? one (you tube).I think a violent eruption in Iceland (overdue) will sort the problem as it will drop the global temperature by a good few degrees if its a big bang and lasts. Then there is always the meteorite impact - the one before the Tunguska blast destroyed 93 % of all the animal species on the earth (Younger Dryas)
Younger Dryas, also called Younger Dryas stadial, cool period between roughly 12,900 and 11,600 years ago that disrupted the prevailing warming trend occurring at the end of the Pleistocene Epoch (which lasted from 2.6 million to 11,700 years ago).
https://www.britannica.com/science/Younger-Dryas-climate-interval#:~:text=Younger Dryas, also called Younger,million to 11,700 years ago).
So are we obssessing over the most dangerous prospect to end life on earth - I dont think we are there are things far more dangerous and all likely to reduce global warming.
However, as with all aspects of modern society I do believe we are obsessing and hand wringing to excess.
Stop breeding and start living !
Another and final thought;
Though Krakatoa’s is far from the most powerful volcanic eruption in history (the eruption of nearby Tambora in 1815, for example, measured a 7 on the VEI), it’s arguably the most famous. Its 1883 eruption became the first truly global catastrophe, thanks to the recently installed worldwide telegraphic network, which instantly broadcast news of the eruption all over the world.
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