harrygrey382
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do you make mods? If so how much?
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mickjgardner
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the troble bieng is a have a t8 and a northstar but am looking to get a new rifle and both my moderators are 1/2 threads.a lot of the rifles are now 14mm which means i either buy a new moderator or have to choose my rifle by what thread it comes with
Brithunter
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Hmmm what about the Mk2 ear
.Now as your obviously aware the sound of the bullet is heard but the quarry hear it as it pases or gets close but due to the "Cone of Confusion" caused by the sound moderator quietening the muzzle report and diffusing it means that the quarry does not know where the actual shot came from. I recall a lecture given at the Imperial War Museum by Andrew Hamlet on sound moderators their use and how effective they are.
I made my own moderators and muzzle brakes some 30 odd years ago when playing with a Crossman 766 air rifle.
Buy a mod that has a changable threaded bush and replacement baffle stack that way you get the best of both!
Brithunter
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Hmmm I do believe that the Wildcat Predator is made like that
as are the Hushers which no one seems to mention and the Husher has no baffle stack to worry about neither plus being a modular design 
however they are a muzzle can and not the reflex type 
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Hmmm I do believe that the Wildcat Predator is made like that
How much does the Wildcat cost will all the appropriate gubbins to use it on more than one rifle?
Hmmm what about the Mk2 ear
Now as your obviously aware the sound of the bullet is heard but the quarry hear it as it pases or gets close but due to the "Cone of Confusion" caused by the sound moderator quietening the muzzle report and diffusing it means that the quarry does not know where the actual shot came from. I recall a lecture given at the Imperial War Museum by Andrew Hamlet on sound moderators their use and how effective they are.
I made my own moderators and muzzle brakes some 30 odd years ago when playing with a Crossman 766 air rifle.
The quarry will not know if it was a 30 cal mod being used on a 222, 243, 6,5 etc etc. The point is there is very little advantage from using "calibre" specific moderators.
The lecture sounded intersting.
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mickthebrick
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I have a Wildcat and because I'm lazy and can't be bothered changing it every time, I fire my .223 through the .308 baffle. It IS louder than when I use the correct baffle but not loud enough to affect your hearing which is what it's all about really.
If the deer are going to run it doesn't matter whether it's a moderated shot or not.
Mick
If the deer are going to run it doesn't matter whether it's a moderated shot or not.
Mick
Exactly, it matters not if there is a decibel difference in using a sound moderator which isnt calibre specific, buy one mod that does all and save your money, thats why I make 2 sizes.
EMcC
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I used a T8 for many years on different calibre rifles just by changing the delrin bush to keep it snug to the barrel.
My argument was that if the volume inside a .30 calibre specific moderator was good enough to 'choke back/stifle' the amount of gasses produced by such a large cartridge then the amount of gasses produced by a .222 or .243 would get lost in the 30 specific volume!!
It is the gasses hitting the air when exiting the muzzle that produces the first noise and the second noise is made by the bullet breaking the sound barrier, normally not too far ahead of the muzzle.
With the speed of the bullet and the loud muzzle blast the mk 1 ear 'joins' the two noises together so you will only hear one loud report.
So by using a moderator, most prey only hears the bullet breaking the sound barrier and as it is louder than the 'puff' from the muzzle has no idea what is going on.
That is my take on it and I am happy with that explanation.
My argument was that if the volume inside a .30 calibre specific moderator was good enough to 'choke back/stifle' the amount of gasses produced by such a large cartridge then the amount of gasses produced by a .222 or .243 would get lost in the 30 specific volume!!
It is the gasses hitting the air when exiting the muzzle that produces the first noise and the second noise is made by the bullet breaking the sound barrier, normally not too far ahead of the muzzle.
With the speed of the bullet and the loud muzzle blast the mk 1 ear 'joins' the two noises together so you will only hear one loud report.
So by using a moderator, most prey only hears the bullet breaking the sound barrier and as it is louder than the 'puff' from the muzzle has no idea what is going on.
That is my take on it and I am happy with that explanation.
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Thar
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How effective a moderator works when using it on a calibre for which it was not originally manufactured for can be effected by it its design.
T8s seem to be very tolerant; you can use a 22CF cartridge on a 30cal one with there being little noticeable change in noise suppression, but other designs and unfortunately for Brit’ the P8 is one, requires to be matched to more carefully to the baffle exit holes for it to work effectively.
ATB
Tahr
T8s seem to be very tolerant; you can use a 22CF cartridge on a 30cal one with there being little noticeable change in noise suppression, but other designs and unfortunately for Brit’ the P8 is one, requires to be matched to more carefully to the baffle exit holes for it to work effectively.
ATB
Tahr
Brithunter
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it was as it covered the history of them from the Maxim device up to the present,then that is, day. The largest one the company he worked for built was so deaden the noise of a 155mm Self Prpopelled Gun for the German army. The gun was driven up to it and then fired. Sadly Andrew is no longer with us. He was an a reconised expert of Russian weapons and especially the AK series and numerous of his articles were published in Guns Review.
As for calibre specific mods ................................... well I did ask before buying mine but that was not pointed out until after i had brought it........................... Oh well.
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