Rake Aboot
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As has been said
No need for a slip if you have a reason to be carrying it.
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No need for a slip if you have a reason to be carrying it.
Legally speaking, that is.
yep misread it.... was wondering how someone would steal the bike if was by it with a shotgun?
LeftHandGuy
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You're mixing up a couple of bikes there! The MT500 and MT350 were based on a design from an Italian company, the MT500 was built for the British Army by CCM in Bolton. They used the 500cc Rotax engine like a bunch of other bikes. A really cool little engine with a non-interference head. They then sold the rights to Harley Davidson who built the remaining MT500s. HD added some "lux" features like an electric starter. HD then did a little redesign, used a smaller displacement version of the same engine, changed the brakes from drums to disks and changed a couple of other small features (like adding the rifle scabbard).
The diesel bike you're thinking of began life as a prototype at Cranfield University to meet a US desire for a single military fuel (actually JP8 jet fuel). That used a big mishmash of components but the ultimate bike used a Kawasaki 660 frame with the multi-fuel engine. The US military I think has to prefer US manufactured products (even when they are foreign designs like the M777 howitzer), and so the bikes were put together and sold to the USMC by Hayes Diversified Technologies in the USA although the concept and design were British.
I was myself the owner of an MT500 for a while. I "customized" with the forks, front wheel and brake assembly from an MT350 and some other pieces and bits along the way (note how precision Austrian engineering has given way to traditional British oil leakage...):
Incidentally, I used to go to shooting events pretty frequently with my rifle in a slip case flat across the panniers of a different bike. Very unobtrusive - the real planning skill was in using petrol stations where you can pay at the pump, and finding quiet unobtrusive bushes to pee behind (with slip cased rifle worn over my back of course). Very short trips are pretty easy, longer trips require a little imaginative planning. Wearing the rifle slip like a backpack and riding would not, in my opinion be a good idea (too much risk of damaging both rider and rifle in the event of an RTA, not to mention the potential for getting the police called on you by some "concerned citizen").
A rifle that could be easily taken down or broken down and therefore put into a case that didn't look like a gun case would help you a lot too - but that is probably true for any situation where you want to avoid arousing suspicion or alarm.
badmolassesaccident
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Nothing in the Firearms Act about it, that is true. But it's likely that if you walked down Oxford Street or any city area with an uncovered rifle or shotgun, you would give alarm to many people and be committing a public order offence.
Just adding context to the legal position, obv you have already said your comment applies to between farms etc.
Triggermortis
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If you walked down a crowded street with an uncovered firearm I doubt a public order offence would be entered on your charge sheet, but maybe something a tad more serious and most definitely firearms related?
12gsnapcaps
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Very interesting! Thanks for your clarification
LeftHandGuy
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Very interesting! Thanks for your clarification
No, thank YOU for giving me the chance to revisit an old hobby and obsession of mine.
On the wider subject of moving around with guns in UK. I'm nearly 8 years out since living and shooting in the UK so maybe things are a little different now, but I think the key is being discreet, not furtive. You can't practically lock a gun in a bike's luggage so you just have to plan any journey around that.
Of course, having said all that, getting a deer home on a bike would be a whole different story. Totally doable for a smaller deer, but if anyone does it I want some pictures!
MAH
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Whist... in the USA
kenbro
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Back in THE day, we used to call int pub on way home and put shotgun int umbrella stand without a slip.Many many years ago I bought a shotgun from a dealers ( Entwistles) of Preston. Took the bus back to Chorley and went onto Victory Park to watch the Magpies, with the gun in a slip. No crowd problems that day.
Those really were the days…
Ken.
#foldingstockrequired
long_range_rob
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Yep, I'll acknowledge a folding stock would be advantageous, but it does not stick out as far as you'd think
There’s a guy near me who cruises between shoots on a clearly purposeful e-scooter with his rifle within a tacticool drag bag. Dressed in full camo too just to ensure one is left in no doubt of intent!
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You spoilt much fun by way of SD replies to your post by including that last sentence!
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