New AT tyres

caorach

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As some may be aware I wasn't at all impressed with the performance of the BFG All Terrains that I had fitted to my L200, in any kind of wet they really weren't great be that a wet track, wet snow, or a wet road. Previously I ran the Yokohama ATS tyres, they have been replaced by a new model, and to my surprise I found them much better tyres than the BFGs for anything I did.

I had looked around at options to replace the BFGs and in the end went with the Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus which are a relatively new tyre from Pirelli. Really I think you need to run tyres for their life, and at least two winters, before you can express anything other than passing views so I'm not yet recommending the Pirelli tyres over anything else but just expressing some initial impressions.

What I can say is that I saw a reduction in noise and a really remarkable jump in the miles per gallon, the car appears much more stable on wet roads and I've not noticed any differences in the (very little) off road driving that I've done. The ride is slightly different but I can't say it is better or worse. I should highlight that I'm comparing new tyres to old BFGs etc. so as I'm keen to point out my opinions aren't worth much at this stage. However, if you are looking for new AT type tyres then the Pirellis are certainly worth considering as on initial impressions they aren't awful and already seem better than the BFGs in some areas.
 
I have been using the Pirelli AT Plus for nearing a year and around 10,000 miles. I bought them because of the wet road use reviews and share your experiences of other AT tyres being shocking on wet tarmac (GG AT 2s being the worst by a country mile). I rate the Pirelli highly and they have exceeded all expectations both on and off road. I haven't measured wear rate yet but they still look as new. But, for the posers out there... they don't look as aggressive and 'cool' as BFG's😆
 
My shooting vehicle is a Kia Sportage - no laughing please- it does the job! :D I do unpaid pest control on local farms in Lincs so I don't have to cope with steep hills or rocky terrain. When I got the Kia it had standard road tyres but after a few months driving on rutted gravel farm tracks the inner tyre walls were trashed, especially on the rear. A local tyre company suggested I try Sailwin ATs because the sidewalls are better at resisting damage and they are cheap (just over £80 per wheel fitted) Done about 4,000 miles and so far no damage or scuffing to the side walls. When I first got them they were a bit skittish on wet roads when inflated to Kia's recomended pressures, however after some experimentation I found that running them between 3-5 lbs lower on paved roads improved the wet handling noticeably.
 
Me too on the kia Sportage, had a 2010 on bfg all terrain and great I n the snow and off road happily followed the land rovers and Isuzu,s off road .
Newer Sportage on hankook tyres so far so good first year ,off road no dramas good mpg and noise level 👍
 
The new Isuzu comes with the Pirellis. They look great. View attachment 222933


Being honest I don't care what they look like, it was the sliding about on damp tracks and having the rear end pass me on wet roads aspects that I was more interested in :-)

Interestingly I was talking to the chap who fitted my Pirellis and he was saying that he fitted BFGs to his VW Amarok pickup but took them off the same day as he thought they were awful on the wet. I think he went to Falken Wildtrack or Wildpeak or similar, can't exactly remember the model name. I appreciate that a lot of people get on fine with the BFGs but it does seem like I'm not the only person to have found them extremely disappointing for general UK use.
 
We used event ml698 at on our trooper, wish I never changed, good mileage and never got stuck done strata Florida, Wales and Cornwall green Laning, towed the horsebox and wife's daily driver
 
Me too on the kia Sportage, had a 2010 on bfg all terrain and great I n the snow and off road happily followed the land rovers and Isuzu,s off road .
Newer Sportage on hankook tyres so far so good first year ,off road no dramas good mpg and noise level 👍
Nice to hear I'm not the only one on the forum who lacks a proper 4WD :)
 
Lockable diff ,auto 4wd with the right tyres been everywhere the " real 4x4,s " go on our shoot .
Have laughed at slipping Discovery's and rescued an Isuzu out of a bog then driven my Chelsea tractor out .
Peeps underestimate our toy cars 🚗
 
I'm running Yokohoma geolandars on my Skoda Yeti, surprisingly capable with them on it, better traction off road that my freelander with General grabbers used to have! I've recently had Cooper discoverers fitted to my wifes campervan, I keep eyeing them up as they look much more agressive than the geolanders, but they havnt let me down yet and I've been everywhere the "big boys" would go
 
Anyone like to put a percentage on the difference in fuel consumption between road tyres and off-road tyres?
 
As some may be aware I wasn't at all impressed with the performance of the BFG All Terrains that I had fitted to my L200, in any kind of wet they really weren't great be that a wet track, wet snow, or a wet road. Previously I ran the Yokohama ATS tyres, they have been replaced by a new model, and to my surprise I found them much better tyres than the BFGs for anything I did.

I had looked around at options to replace the BFGs and in the end went with the Pirelli Scorpion All Terrain Plus which are a relatively new tyre from Pirelli. Really I think you need to run tyres for their life, and at least two winters, before you can express anything other than passing views so I'm not yet recommending the Pirelli tyres over anything else but just expressing some initial impressions.

What I can say is that I saw a reduction in noise and a really remarkable jump in the miles per gallon, the car appears much more stable on wet roads and I've not noticed any differences in the (very little) off road driving that I've done. The ride is slightly different but I can't say it is better or worse. I should highlight that I'm comparing new tyres to old BFGs etc. so as I'm keen to point out my opinions aren't worth much at this stage. However, if you are looking for new AT type tyres then the Pirellis are certainly worth considering as on initial impressions they aren't awful and already seem better than the BFGs in some areas.
Have you looked at the updated BF Goodrich All-Terrain T/A KO2? Comes with tougher sidewalls and a thicker, extended shoulder shield:
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I’ve just switched from Graber AT3s to Falkan AT3Ws after running a set of the Grabers for 4 years. Sidewall splitting issues with the Grabers is what’s made me change.
 
Anyone like to put a percentage on the difference in fuel consumption between road tyres and off-road tyres?
When I fitted Graber ATs to my wagon it dropped 2 mpg. Was running continental winter tyres previously but needed better grip off road so worth the drop for me. Just swapped to Falkan AT3Ws but too early to compare mpg at the moment.
 
I changed 2 years ago and now run General G AT3s on all our Isuzu D-Max and Amarok fleet. Extremely impressive wear, excellent traction and good road performance. No drop in fuel efficiency. Maybe they just work for our driving conditions heavy loads in 35% road, 65% off-road including deep mud and some dreadful sharp rocks etc. Haven’t been let down yet. Yet. Just my experience.
 
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