For Sale: Nielsen Sonic Ballistic Lead Free Brass Hunting Projectiles - ALL Calibre’s

Ben Heath

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With lead free hunting bullets becoming more of a consideration I have been searching for a lead free hunting bullet that will consistently perform, be at a sensible price and be readily available. After testing many not just on targets but in real hunting situations I am confident to have found a bullet that I’m happy with. Our main concern was the fragmenting petals and whether they would create too much carcass damage.......well we are pleased to say that the damage is not excessive and in fact less than most lead bullets used. Efficacy on impacts have been exceptionally good at ranges tested up to 400m with NO impacts not expanding correctly. In Africa they have been tested upwards of 600m with no issues. They are also very easy to load and not jump fussy.

Nielsen Sonic Ballistic Hunt, a brass wedge is inserted in the front of the projectile. This wedge serves three main purposes. The first purpose is that it greatly increased aerodynamics, which reduces drag and thereby results in a relatively greater velocity on longer distances. The second purpose is that, on impact, the wedge is mechanically pushed into the hollowpoint, thereby needing less force to fragment the front of the projectile. The third function of the wedge, is smooth and flawless magazine feeding, as the tip of the wedge prevents jamming in the magazine.

Hunt has a significantly longer effective range than some lead free competitors and therefore we recommend the use of Hunt projectiles for all distances, but believe that it is required for longer distances.

Hunt has a series of ribs around the body of the projectile. These ribs ensure a tight seal, preventing blow-by of the propellant gases behind the projectile, while minimizing the contact area between the barrel and the projectile. The ribs are quickly deformed, resulting in reduced friction between projectile and barrel. On the picture below this is clearly visible. It is displayed how the ribs are pushed away by the rifling, while the body of the projectile is largely untouched. This means that a relatively small portion of the surface of the projectile is in contact with the barrel and thus that friction is minimal.

Available calibre’s and prices below - All sold in boxes of 50 and only available through myself (www.deergear.co.uk) or though our only authorised re-seller 1967SPUD reloading supplies

Up to 100gr £45 per box 50
.224 slow twist 50gr (1:12 or slower)
.224 fast twist 50gr (1:12 or faster)
.243/6mm 75gr
.243/6mm 85gr (limited stock but more on the way)
.257 100gr (limited stock but more on the way)

Over 100gr £47.50 per box 50
.264/6.5mm 120gr
.270 125gr
.284/7mm 130gr
.308/7.62mm 110gr
.308/7.62mm 140gr
.308/7.62mm 150gr

We also offer 170gr 30 cal to order (3-4 weeks delivery) and calibre from 8mm up to .458 to order. Target/practice bullets also available
 

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Do you have any load data for 110/140 .30 cal bullets?
Yes we are building up info.....as the post above says though, due to the way the drive bands are constructed these bullets do not suffer from high pressure. Therefore you can use load data for comparable weight lead bullets (that’s how I got going with them). They also like a faster burning powder for a given bullet weight......
Eg in 308 powders burning similar to N133/N140, 30-06 N150, 6.5 CM RS50 and N150, 243 N150

Where I have got severe pressure signs with a similar weight bullet such as Barnes etc I have had no pressure signs at all and have often been able to get another couple of grains more powder in. Also as posted these like to be driven fast but for them to perform it’s not essential as the petals will open up at impact speeds of 1000 FPS or less. So you can pick a nice accurate node and not be worried about driving them as fast as possible.

A stalker I know found two nodes using the 110gr for his 308.....1 at 3100 and the other at 3250, he opted for the 3100 and has a 0.5MOA group before even playing with seating.
 
Are those prices with UK postage included?

Any discounts for bulk (1,000+) orders?

Thanks

Thank you for the interest. If purchased from deergear then the prices included postage and re bulk orders we have priced them competitively to start with. If you wish to discuss large orders then I would suggest getting in touch with Mark from SPUD and if there is anything that he can do that will be between you and him.
 
I would be interested to see how these load for the 6.5 CM
I’m currently using the 120’s in my 6.5 CM, very easy to load. Every single one was 1 MOA or tighter

Using RS50 I found a stable node at 2930fps and 3100fps shooting 2” groups at 300m, I recon N150 and possibly N140 would also be good powders.

Shot over 50 deer with them in the last 8 weeks, head, neck and body shots out to 350m. They have performed fantastically and I’ve been using lead free for 3 years. In the past my concern has always been effective expansion at distance as speed and resistance are required with Barnes type bullets. These have not been the case, every one has expanded as desired with clean kills and acceptable levels of carcass damage.
 
Hi, is there less than 120 grain in 6.5 please?
Cheers Jimmy
Hi Jimmy
At the moment it’s just the 120’s
We have the design and technical drawings for a 105gr however the 120’s work in standard twist (unlike the Barnes which are a bit fussy at that weight). What’s the reason for wanting lighter?

special orders can be made if ordering 1000 projectiles
 
Hi Jimmy
At the moment it’s just the 120’s
We have the design and technical drawings for a 105gr however the 120’s work in standard twist (unlike the Barnes which are a bit fussy at that weight). What’s the reason for wanting lighter?

special orders can be made if ordering 1000 projectiles
I run an 18in barrel an find running sst I'm getting 2600ish and fancy getting the speed up. Don't really want to commit to 1000 incase I'm not happy with the results
Cheers Jimmy
 
I run an 18in barrel an find running sst I'm getting 2600ish and fancy getting the speed up. Don't really want to commit to 1000 incase I'm not happy with the results
Cheers Jimmy
You are better with the 120’s as your fighting against it with the shorter barrel. As previously stated, due to the construction of the bullet you can push them hard without pressure issue. You should easily be able to get 2850 plus out of you barrel. What cartridge are you running?
 
You are better with the 120’s as your fighting against it with the shorter barrel. As previously stated, due to the construction of the bullet you can push them hard without pressure issue. You should easily be able to get 2850 plus out of you barrel. What cartridge are you running?
6.5x47 do you have some load data please?
 
These sound really positive. Have you had any issues with pencilling and or ricochet throughout your research? not an attempt to ambush the post, just interested.
 
Bought some of these off you at The Wiltshire Shootping Centre Christmas fair, 120/6.5, hoping to get them loaded this week and tested the following
 
Do you have any pictures of recovered bullets and carcass damage?
No recovered shafts as they have all exited. But we have recovered the odd petal several times and they look exactly like the pictures posted at the top. I’ve even found the brass plunger, most of the time the petals have also exited but when shoulder shot it’s possible to find a petal.

As posted above these expand....Period! The plunger initiates expansion at impact speeds as low as 1000 feet per second which in a Creedmoor would equate to well over 800 meters......way further than I would want to shoot. In the 50 plus deer I have shot plus a further 30 plus that fellow stalkers using these that I know of.....ALL shots have resulted in effective expansion and the petals breaking off as intended.

The other point I have made is the positive “thwack” you get on report of the bullet striking......something I have found lacking with Barnes type bullets. You could close your eyes and know you have hit the deer. All I can say is try them......the one concern many have over lead free is lack of expansion.....pencilling.....well these don’t do that but also carcass damage is not excessive. I’ll be doing some videos on deer carcasses as we process the venison ourselves so can really show what they do.
 
These sound really positive. Have you had any issues with pencilling and or ricochet throughout your research? not an attempt to ambush the post, just interested.
Sorry seen bit on ricochet......no heard any zings but they aren’t the dangerous ones. The only thing I can say is that because the petals expand and then break off you get a huge dumping of energy within the carcass so the shaft that is exiting is loosing its residual energy fast! Therefore ricochet is less likely....also if you miss the bullet breaks up into 5 pieces on hitting something.
 
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