Night vision optic

[Craigmcwill]

Hi guys,

Looking for advice once again .

Recently the farmer who owns the ground I shoot on has asked if I can get rid of some foxes for him.

I am looking for some advice to see what everyone's advice would be in terms of the best night vision scope on the market.

I would prefer a full scope rather than an add on.

I have read the previous forums and the consensus seemed to be, the pulsar c50 or the pard ds35.

I'm torn between the two, although I do like the fact the pard has an on board rangefinder as it can be easy to misjudge ranges in the dark.

Any help appreciated as always guys!

Have a good weekend too ,

Craig

 

[MagicLantern]

I have never used a pard but I do have a C50 and an Alpex. These do the job for me at the range I tend to shoot at, which is up to 180m. The Alpex with its illuminator is very good, with a laser IR it can easily do 250m+ on a clear mist free night. In my view there's nothing between them. My upcoming 204 will have an Alpex bolted on top.

Out at the moment with the C50 and a Black Sun Dark Engine IR. If you are on WhatsApp pm and I will send over some videos.

 

[sir-lamp-alot]

Never looked through eithier of the units youve mentioned but im sure there fine but what i will say is how much money do you really want to throw at the job if foxing isnt you thing thats fine but dont throw a bag of money at it just because the farmer wants them shot ive gor a yukon sightline n470s which dont go for a lot of money second hand but cant spot foxes farther than I can shoot them

 

[Rural Management Services]

Posted earlier on a similar thread so please forgive the copy and paste. Probably worth saying I don’t sell scopes etc so no agenda.

Of the 3 (C50, HIK Alpex and DS35) the DS35 works best if you want to use it for occasional deer stalking as well as general NV. The higher base mag gives you that extra detail level that allows the last double check that it’s definitely a doe and not a button buck etc. You just can’t get that level of detail from the C50 and Alpex while using it in colour during deer hours due to the low 3.5x base mag. A familiar situation with the C50 or Alpex is you spot something with the thermal, id it with binos and then struggle to pick it out amongst brambles etc with the C50 or Alpex. NV wise I find the performance of all three about the same of the 3 the Pard has the best standard NV offering and you do get real world performance out to 200-250 yards.

100mm eye relief and 52mm outside objective diameter also allow sensible mounting. The C50 is something silly like 76mm dia and needs a 50mm eye relief making mounting on some rifles a pig. Round colour display is actually really nice to use compared to square ones. I didn’t expect to care about this but I find it a real bonus.

Bad points.

Well it’s pig ugly. I don’t think the C50 is a looker either but the Alpex is not that bad. People seem to forgive the looks because they use it in the dark I guess and hide it in the cabinet during the day.

Lens cap seems fragile.

The 18650 batteries last about 3 hours. That said they are cheap as chips to buy and carrying a couple spare isn’t a hardship.

Switching standby mode on and off it’s as instant ok the Pard as the others.

There is a 10-15 min window at each end of the day where the Alpex and C50 have far better colour low light ability than the Pard. You can solve this by using the Pard in B&W mode without NV as this seems to bring the low light performance straight back.

I have owned and used all 3 for the record so feel able to give an objective answer on this.

 

[Craigmcwill]

Posted earlier on a similar thread so please forgive the copy and paste. Probably worth saying I don’t sell scopes etc so no agenda.

Of the 3 (C50, HIK Alpex and DS35) the DS35 works best if you want to use it for occasional deer stalking as well as general NV. The higher base mag gives you that extra detail level that allows the last double check that it’s definitely a doe and not a button buck etc. You just can’t get that level of detail from the C50 and Alpex while using it in colour during deer hours due to the low 3.5x base mag. A familiar situation with the C50 or Alpex is you spot something with the thermal, id it with binos and then struggle to pick it out amongst brambles etc with the C50 or Alpex. NV wise I find the performance of all three about the same of the 3 the Pard has the best standard NV offering and you do get real world performance out to 200-250 yards.

100mm eye relief and 52mm outside objective diameter also allow sensible mounting. The C50 is something silly like 76mm dia and needs a 50mm eye relief making mounting on some rifles a pig. Round colour display is actually really nice to use compared to square ones. I didn’t expect to care about this but I find it a real bonus.

Bad points.

Well it’s pig ugly. I don’t think the C50 is a looker either but the Alpex is not that bad. People seem to forgive the looks because they use it in the dark I guess and hide it in the cabinet during the day.

Lens cap seems fragile.

The 18650 batteries last about 3 hours. That said they are cheap as chips to buy and carrying a couple spare isn’t a hardship.

Switching standby mode on and off it’s as instant ok the Pard as the others.

There is a 10-15 min window at each end of the day where the Alpex and C50 have far better colour low light ability than the Pard. You can solve this by using the Pard in B&W mode without NV as this seems to bring the low light performance straight back.

I have owned and used all 3 for the record so feel able to give an objective answer on this.

Which of all 3 has the best detail when it is totally dark?

 

[Cottis]

What will you be shooting the foxes with (chambering) and what scope does it already have on it? Will this be to help out the farmer or some kit that you anticipate getting lots of use from in the future.

 

[Rural Management Services]

Which of all 3 has the best detail when it is totally dark?

There isn’t allot in it in truth.

Also there is many factors to consider.

Weather. If it’s different on different night with each scope how do you compare?

NV each has a different NV or has been used in a variety of conditions with various NV.

The base mag is significantly different between the Pard and the others which again makes a differences.

Personally I prefer the Pard because I like the round display, higher mag, RF, NV and eye relief.

 

[Craigmcwill]

What will you be shooting the foxes with (chambering) and what scope does it already have on it? Will this be to help out the farmer or some kit that you anticipate getting lots of use from in the future.

I've got a 6.5 creedmoor and a zco 527 on it just now for f class and stalking. The farmers family owns all the ground around about neighbouring towns so hopefully if goes well I can go out for his family too