Nocpix nite D70R
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Give it 1-2 weeks and you will have a wide range of feedback on this from users...
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So is the radio silence from all of the dealers and youtube reviewers regarding the product ,
They have all had them for a while now from looking at all of the daft little clips and teasers they have been Posting yet nothing of any substance . Over the last 6-8 weeks you couldn't shut them up !
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jackblack56
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Yeah, the lack of full reviews or side-by-side comparison footage of competitor products (i.e. the Alpex 4K) is a tad concerning. As others have mentioned, I've also heard on the grapevine that there are issues with the demo units given to reviewers and that firmware updates are expected. I'd imagine they are under a gag-order by Nocpix to not mention any faults or flaws pre-release.
Aside from that the unit itself and ergonomics of it look great. Really hoping Nocpix don't drop the ball on this one
One on top of two
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The problems with the crappy images that we have seen so far are mainly a problem because of the objective sizes of these newer breed of NV units .dont forget the D70R is not a physical 70 mm objective, Its a 70mm focal length .Yeah, the lack of full reviews or side-by-side comparison footage of competitor products (i.e. the Alpex 4K) is a tad concerning. As others have mentioned, I've also heard on the grapevine that there are issues with the demo units given to reviewers and that firmware updates are expected. I'd imagine they are under a gag-order by Nocpix to not mention any faults or flaws pre-release.
Aside from that the unit itself and ergonomics of it look great. Really hoping Nocpix don't drop the ball on this one
A digital scope with a high focal length and a small objective lens will have high magnification, a narrow field of view, and dimmer, potentially less sharp images compared to scopes with larger objective lenses ... fact . And why they need so much IR
This is why the Alpex will give a better image at night its all down to a bigger genuine 50mm objective . And needs less IR .
A new firmware patch is not going to alter the physical size of the lens .
What makes me laugh is that we keep hearing ' they don't use a big 60/70mm lens on NV because it will make them big ! Yet they will do it on thermal sure enough. Nocpix is happy to release a 75 mm thermal though .
Im starting to believe that they are deliberately Holding back bigger lens NV because it will kill thermal sales as thats where the big money is for the company's.
Think about who is going to spend 5-6k on a thermal scope that can only actually ID quarry
Genuinely ( not just a hot blob ) out to 200yrds when a state of the art modern Cmos sensored NV could ID your quarry out too 350 yrds plus another 300 yrds of backstop for under 2k .
But That of course is nothing more than my personal opinion.
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jackblack56
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I agree with you to a point on the lens appearing to be of smaller aperture/spec than the Alpex, but it will also be down to image processing by the unit via hardware and software - which can be altered by a firmware patch. Things can be tweaked to pull a much better image out of the kit provided.
One on top of two
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Well we shall just have to see who' s right .
We shall find out soon enough if we are to believe the powers that seem to be .
Don't get me wrong i for One certainly does not want this product to fall on its arse .i really want something to better the Alpex , and if this product does i will be over the moon and be one of the first in line to get one But I'm just not filled with confidence .
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jackblack56
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Totally agree with you there!
I've never owned a day/night scope but looked through plenty (Alpex, Pulsar, Zulus, Pard), yet to find one I've been happy with - call me an image snob
Got one on pre-order, so will see how it fares.Image snobTotally agree with you there!
I've never owned a day/night scope but looked through plenty (Alpex, Pulsar, Zulus, Pard), yet to find one I've been happy with - call me an image snob
Will be interesting to see what you think when your new scope arrives. I started with a Pulsar N750A, have a Pulsar XM50 thermal scope and an Alpex now. Will never have the image quality of glass but nowhere near the price (well NV anyway) and good glass is sod all use in the darkTotally agree with you there!
I've never owned a day/night scope but looked through plenty (Alpex, Pulsar, Zulus, Pard), yet to find one I've been happy with - call me an image snob
jackblack56
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I'll report back with my findingsWill be interesting to see what you think when your new scope arrives. I started with a Pulsar N750A, have a Pulsar XM50 thermal scope and an Alpex now. Will never have the image quality of glass but nowhere near the price (well NV anyway) and good glass is sod all use in the dark
The 70mm on the Pard Nightstalker 4K EX Certainly supports your theory on this. Alpex 4K certainly gathers allot more light.
I have had a brief look through a D70R, but I wasn’t allowed to use it without IR or in fact do anything useful with it so I will withhold comment.
I am also told that all dealers are limited to 2 x D70R units each on the first batch in.
I’m looking forward to the release but did notice the only video with decent length ratting has zoomed on so you can’t see all the screen I did get chance to look at one on Wednesday evening and was impressed
One on top of two
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Just out of interest what sort of distance did you get to try it at ?
Pellet Pinger
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200yd deer.
Andydorset
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Iv pre-ordered one, so i hope there good.
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Pellet Pinger
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And my knob touches the floor !
I would say thats 100 m max
Says 180m on the display when he ranged it.
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