Non Toxic advice?

[wildfowler.250]

Gents, I’m needing some suggestions if possible please?

I’ve slightly come a cropper. I’ve booked a days stalking next week and loaded up a batch of home loads which always takes a bit of time. It turns out that the estate is non toxic only so I’m a tad late in finding this out.

Which of the following brands would you recommend? Purely looking at bushwear because it’s central / handy.

I prefer to use my own rifle from a confidence view but then that changes with new ammo anyway.

I can’t decide whether to grab one of the recommend boxes available and try them out on the target on the day,(seems a bit hectic but difficult to test before then). Or just use the estate rifle.


If anyone can recommend any of the below ammo for reliability,(appreciate no guarantees it’ll shoot well in my particular rifle) I may pick up a box in the hope that I can squeeze a target session in prior to the big day.


Cheers!

 

[paulbshooting]

Buy some fox bullets from Ed at Edinburgh Rifles or they sell complete rounds too as used by Forestly England but need to collect or RFD xfer for that

 

[mathieson]

Sellior and bellot 130gr are good the 96gr rws are also a good round tho may be a bit light for the reds

 

[paulbshooting]

Or Yew Tree bullets from Richard, super helpful.guy

 

[Cranborne]

What's the quarry? I've had good results on roe with RWS Evo Green and they may be best suited to the smaller species.

 

[Selous]

My choice from the screen capture would be the RWS Evo Green. I’ve heard lots of good things about them

 

[wildfowler.250]

Sorry guys, thanks already for the suggestions!

It’s for reds. I won’t have any time to load up so it’s literally one of those selected boxes in the photo.

Hornady GMX rings a bell? Any use?

 

[wildfowler.250]

My choice from the screen capture would be the RWS Evo Green. I’ve heard lots of good things about them

Thanks and that’s really helpful because I know very little about them. Appreciate it!

 

[yellow belly]

Sako, Winchester or S&B all work well in .270

 

[wildfowler.250]

Sellior and bellot 130gr are good the 96gr rws are also a good round tho may be a bit light for the reds

Sako, Winchester or S&B all work well in .270

Perfect thanks! 2 votes for S&B then. I’ve heard decent stuff of sako amo but don’t think they have any available

 

[yellow belly]

Winchester in 130gr do well on stags

 

[Suilven]

Another vote for the Winchester stuff. Seems accurate in my .308.

 

[wildfowler.250]

Winchester in 130gr do well on stags

Another vote for the Winchester stuff. Seems accurate in my .308.

Cheers guys, good to know!

 

[Dunwaters]

Not on your list but if you can find some of the Sako factory loaded ttsx in 130 Gr and they work in your rifle I’d grab them.
They‘re accurate and perform well on game with no splatter damage and good penetration.

 

[Border]

Personally I would Just use the estate rifle. To turn up and zero with unproved ammunition seems amateur to me. What if the rifle doesnt like your choice of round, if you get them in time?

 

[Alantoo]

If anyone can recommend any of the below ammo for reliability,(appreciate no guarantees it’ll shoot well in my particular rifle) I may pick up a box in the hope that I can squeeze a target session in prior to the big day.

From those options...

If you are used to shooting with a frangible soft point bullet then the EVO-Green would have similar terminal effects at similar POI. It has a frangible tin front core and a bonded solid tin rear core. When I tried a few of the 308W version in my rifle they produced a 0.599" 5 shot group and a 1.235" 5 shot group from my rifle.

I have used both factory and home loaded 150gr Superperformance GMX, they grouped well with 5 shots averaging around 0.850" and were effective Neck and top of the heart chest shots on Roe, Fallow and Muntjac at .308W speeds so should be even better at .270 velocities. I imagine that Hornady's latest offering the CX would also be effective, maybe even better. It is Copper eXpanding rather than the Gilding Metal eXpanding GMX. Although I had no problems, the sometime reported criticism of the GMX over the Barnes and Fox bullets is that they were harder and did not expand as well on softer targets or longer range. According to their web site presentation they have addressed those points with the CX.

Buy a box each of EVO Green and CX and see which your barrel likes best.

Alan

 

[Alantoo]

Personally I would Just use the estate rifle. To turn up and zero with unproved ammunition seems amateur to me. What if the rifle doesnt like your choice of round, if you get them in time?

I understand your reasoning, but I think I am liable to be the main cause of poor groups in my shooting rather than the ammunition / rifle combination.

So I would be happier to check and zero with my own rifle. Rather than having to adapt to the treble whammy of the trajectory and terminal effects of unfamiliar ammunition and an unfamiliar rifle.

Alan

 

[User00040]

Personally I would Just use the estate rifle. To turn up and zero with unproved ammunition seems amateur to me. What if the rifle doesnt like your choice of round, if you get them in time?

Would agree with this.

Any mention of 'new' usually rings alarm bells...

Was once told by an old stalker, if their tweeds and boots look brand new, be ready for a long day and a small tip...

 

[Lancaster]

The 96gr Evo Green aren't legal for Scottish Reds.

 

[Border]

I understand your reasoning, but I think I am liable to be the main cause of poor groups in my shooting rather than the ammunition / rifle combination.

So I would be happier to check and zero with my own rifle. Rather than having to adapt to the treble whammy of the trajectory and terminal effects of unfamiliar ammunition and an unfamiliar rifle.

Alan

My reasoning is that if the OP is going on a paid stalk he may not have the time to fanny about zeroing his rifle with up to several sorts of ammo as opposed to using the (hopefully) zeroed estate rifle and having a shot or two if deemed necessary. Especially if this is pre-stalk. I would expect the estate rifle to be suitably zeroed and the guide to know if it is dead on at 100 or an inch high etc. This is where a test shot can also be prudent?