NRL Hunter UK

[bowji john]

Hope you find a venue in Devon/Cornwall

I know of one or two venues that might well suffice - you probably are already in consultation ?

I do hope so

I'd like to take part but there is no way that I can make it to Scotland as cost and logistics prohibit

 

[NRL Hunter UK]

We’ll be announcing some venues much further south than Scotland very soon, don’t you worry!

As for venues we have agreements with a number of ranges but part of our plan to make this as accessible as possible for all our members is to bring on new ranges for matches and training.

Drop us a line about any specific ranges you are thinking of and if we aren’t already working with them we’ll certainly be happy to give it the proper consideration.

 

[Eddie P]

Can we have a single shot with B&Q’s finest quad sticks category?!

It looks interesting however from the video they’re still using tripods, rest bags, detachable magazines, high magnification tactical scopes, will this be a more UK based hunting approach?

That was my first thought too. Who takes a tripod stalking in the UK?

I'm looking forward to the rules being published.

 

[finnbear270]

That was my first thought too. Who takes a tripod stalking in the UK?

I'm looking forward to the rules being published.

.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJtlatdahbE

 

[Ronin]

Have to say that I am impressed with the straightforward explanations of the UK Rules

(ep4 has now been released explaining Factory class)

Simple no nonsense and no “sponsored by” rubbish

Please keep it up

 

[NRL Hunter UK]

Match day registration guide from Christian

 

[NRL Hunter UK]

And to bring you up to date, your factory division!

 

[scotch_egg]

And to bring you up to date, your factory division!

The rules are Definitely weighted towards a certain manufacturer. Picatinny rails haven’t been standard or the attachment points as a consideration until recent years. It precludes someone with an older rifle using a picatinny rail up front which is a simple modification. Again with muzzle device and cap in the box it screams weighted rules. Not saying sponsors have anything to do with this…

 

[jthyttin]

Factory classes are not meant for Average Joe that already has a firearm.

Initially they might work, but factories keep adapting to the rules and eventually there is a shortlist what rifle to buy if you want to shoot Factory and be competitive. If you don't want to do that, I think it's easier to be competitive in Open Light. Unless you have 243 or other 6mm that is allowed in Factory but effectively ruled out in Open classes.

Biggest problem with these Factory rules is that you need to get replacement barrel from original manufacturer (considering somebody that shoots factory, not just tries it time or two). Basically this steers to buy a rifle/system with (QD) barrel change and replacement barrels available over the counter. Second option is to find a manufacturer that does change barrels, preferably in your home country.

Some other considerations are factory options, like interchangable pistol grip on Tikka T3x. Cheekpiece is not a problem, since you can glue or at least tape a suitable piece on. Another European detail that rules are not specifically addressing is set trigger.

Regarding Factory and adding rails on forend, it's a doddle with at least rifles that come with dual sling studs in the front. Technically you could securely attach a contoured rail to rifles with single stud, but I think it begins to be gray area (how large the contoured part can be etc) Or if you want to add full length Arca rail using front stud and front action bolt...

 

[scotch_egg]

Factory classes are not meant for Average Joe that already has a firearm.

Initially they might work, but factories keep adapting to the rules and eventually there is a shortlist what rifle to buy if you want to shoot Factory and be competitive. If you don't want to do that, I think it's easier to be competitive in Open Light. Unless you have 243 or other 6mm that is allowed in Factory but effectively ruled out in Open classes.

Biggest problem with these Factory rules is that you need to get replacement barrel from original manufacturer (considering somebody that shoots factory, not just tries it time or two). Basically this steers to buy a rifle/system with (QD) barrel change and replacement barrels available over the counter. Second option is to find a manufacturer that does change barrels, preferably in your home country.

Some other considerations are factory options, like interchangable pistol grip on Tikka T3x. Cheekpiece is not a problem, since you can glue or at least tape a suitable piece on. Another European detail that rules are not specifically addressing is set trigger.

Regarding Factory and adding rails on forend, it's a doddle with at least rifles that come with dual sling studs in the front. Technically you could securely attach a contoured rail to rifles with single stud, but I think it begins to be gray area (how large the contoured part can be etc) Or if you want to add full length Arca rail using front stud and front action bolt...

By far the easiest option for a factory barrel replacement would be to buy another rifle and sell the old one for a re-barrel.

But I get what you are saying about open. Maybe I’m getting confused with the skills class where you can run anything and there isn’t a league. You just enter for enjoyment of getting to shoot a course of fire and in doing so develop your skills and it’s not just shooting on a square range.

Any which way when it gets competitive you need to invest in equipment. I can see that open would be the easier option with the availability of factory replacement barrels being almost a non starter.

I recon a light weight and a heavy division would be simpler. Keep the power factor rules for each to allow 6mm and OAL 2.7” in light division. As Christian states the rules haven’t been published so there is time for amendments. But that’s just my opinion.

I can’t make the first competition due to family commitment. I intend to shoot open with a 7mm SAUM or 6.5 PrC. Just for fun as that’s a rifle I have got.

 

[scotch_egg]

@NRL Hunter UK can you shoot a .223 in skills class? Just thinking it might be a great calibre to get people who only own a rifle used for fox into the sport.

 

[bowji john]

Skills class for me

That way I get to have fun in a realistic setting; become more efficient with kit; learn from others; try out other kit and not be concerned about where I am in some league

i do hope it comes to Devon / Cornwall

 

[jthyttin]

can you shoot a .223 in skills class

In US rules only requirement for Skills class is the overall ceiling (max .30cal and 3275fps).

 

[PeterGB]

Loved shooting NRL in SA. Will NRL Hunter UK .22 matches allow semi-auto like in the US? The US rules do make memtion for alternative safety measures I.e. use of safety and call out before moving to next shooting point.

 

[NRL Hunter UK]

@NRL Hunter UK can you shoot a .223 in skills class? Just thinking it might be a great calibre to get people who only own a rifle used for fox into the sport.

Yep, any centrefire cartridge up to the .30Cal/3275 limit.

 

[NRL Hunter UK]

Factory classes are not meant for Average Joe that already has a firearm.

Initially they might work, but factories keep adapting to the rules and eventually there is a shortlist what rifle to buy if you want to shoot Factory and be competitive. If you don't want to do that, I think it's easier to be competitive in Open Light. Unless you have 243 or other 6mm that is allowed in Factory but effectively ruled out in Open classes.

Biggest problem with these Factory rules is that you need to get replacement barrel from original manufacturer (considering somebody that shoots factory, not just tries it time or two). Basically this steers to buy a rifle/system with (QD) barrel change and replacement barrels available over the counter. Second option is to find a manufacturer that does change barrels, preferably in your home country.

Some other considerations are factory options, like interchangable pistol grip on Tikka T3x. Cheekpiece is not a problem, since you can glue or at least tape a suitable piece on. Another European detail that rules are not specifically addressing is set trigger.

Regarding Factory and adding rails on forend, it's a doddle with at least rifles that come with dual sling studs in the front. Technically you could securely attach a contoured rail to rifles with single stud, but I think it begins to be gray area (how large the contoured part can be etc) Or if you want to add full length Arca rail using front stud and front action bolt...

Factory class is essential to engage the industry in producing new and innovative platforms to progress any sport.

We’ve seen it in other competitions and disciplines, where major manufacturers have produced platforms purely aimed at that competition, which is a great thing!

 

[NRL Hunter UK]

Loved shooting NRL in SA. Will NRL Hunter UK .22 matches allow semi-auto like in the US? The US rules do make memtion for alternative safety measures I.e. use of safety and call out before moving to next shooting point.

Semi-auto is not an option at present for a number of reasons, safety being the main initial consideration, but it’s certainly something we’d like to keep on the table for the future. See how we get on over the first year.

 

[NRL Hunter UK]

The rules are Definitely weighted towards a certain manufacturer. Picatinny rails haven’t been standard or the attachment points as a consideration until recent years. It precludes someone with an older rifle using a picatinny rail up front which is a simple modification. Again with muzzle device and cap in the box it screams weighted rules. Not saying sponsors have anything to do with this…

Sponsors have nothing to do with it, no more simple a way to say it.

The addition of a Picatinny mount to where the swivel/sling stud was is the most simple addition and entirely within the rules. All of my ‘older rifles’ have such a stud so not sure how much of an issue this will be.

If you’ve more specifics on which manufacturers and rifles you mean we can talk through them.

 

[scotch_egg]

Sponsors have nothing to do with it, no more simple a way to say it.

The addition of a Picatinny mount to where the swivel/sling stud was is the most simple addition and entirely within the rules. All of my ‘older rifles’ have such a stud so not sure how much of an issue this will be.

If you’ve more specifics on which manufacturers and rifles you mean we can talk through them.

A picatinny rail will really necessitate a second hole in the forend. Tikka for example only supply with a single sling swivel. With the rules as they are then you can’t add a picatinny rai to the forend of many rifles without risking integrity of the attachment.

It came across as Bergarra favoured given Christian’s affiliation to the brand. Not many companies supply both a thread protector and brake for example. If a brake is supplied with no thread protector then no alternative can be used eg a silencer. If thread protector and brake supplied anything after market can be used even an after market brake.

 

[jthyttin]

I'm not arguing here, just trying to provide a somewhat "competitive perspective" since during last 20y or so I've seen the same evolution in other discliplines like IPSC. Personally I like to be competitive, but use equipment that is at least remotely practical in real world.

Factory class is essential to engage the industry in producing new and innovative platforms to progress any sport.

I think you can take that perspective, but the leading edge of innovation at the moment is certain manufacturers like Savage and Anschutz taking the chassis produced by MDT and slapping barreled action in it. More so for PRS, but there's e.g. Savage 110 Precision that weighs 9.5lbs and would fit 12lbs limit in NRL hunter.

Usually open class is driving the innovation, and factory class is productizing it.

We’ve seen it in other competitions and disciplines, where major manufacturers have produced platforms purely aimed at that competition, which is a great thing!

It is and it isn't. Take IPSC handgun Production class as example.

In the beginning it was kind of entry level class where you could be competitive w/o reloading, tinkering your gun and so on. Then manufacturers like CZ and Tanfoglio introduced new pistols that were following the letter but not the spirit of Production class. Sponsor money and corruption ruled, and those pistols were admitted to approved list. For many years, Production has been "Standard lite" where you can modify your gun to large extent, and shoot factory ammo (Standard basically mandates reloading your own majos PF ammo, even though some shoot minor either reloads or special factory ammo). Also silly non-practical rules were introduced, like maximum capacity to be loaded in a mag. In part to limit the arms race, and to provide at least another small difference to Standard class.

Another innovation is Laugo Arms Alien, where they started to call non-reciprocating part of pistol "slide", since in some classes you can attach red dot to slide but not the frame. Yes it has some other features but that's the one that caught discussion.