reloader54
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"well done,, you should get some sort of trophy or award" ,,,, just for being here.
Offensive weapons bill announced
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"well done,, you should get some sort of trophy or award" ,,,, just for being here.
This is so bloody annoying !!! so now we are all safer.
Just listening to a story on the news about John Palmer being shot. What was he shot with I wonder ??? A 50 cal ??? Of course not.
Next story a stabbing. FFS
Stupid ridiculously made up laws by totally ignorant idiots.
Just listening to a story on the news about John Palmer being shot. What was he shot with I wonder ??? A 50 cal ??? Of course not.
Next story a stabbing. FFS
Stupid ridiculously made up laws by totally ignorant idiots.
.50 BMG will be banned but the ME threshold is set quite a bit below this. This introduces power as an additional criteria for defining ‘dangerous weapons’. The .416 Barrett probably will be banned too, plus the more lunatic American wildcats like 458 Socom, .458/.500/.510 Whisper, 577 Tyrannosaur & so on.
Yet .408 CheyTac which is now supposed to be THE ultimate long range sniper & anti-materiel cartridge between .338 Lapua & .50 BMG isn’t affected. The weapons will be banned but the ammunition won’t be. Not really my area of interest all this but worth a look.
All of the cartridges you list are below the new proposed (until it is an Act, it remains a proposal although I wouldn't hold my breath on it losing an amendment vote even if anyone were to propose one) limit. The nominal ME of the 416 Barret is 1,887 J / 8,867 ft/lb.
The 50 BMG is in a DIFFERENT power league from African cartridges and all other 'ELR' numbers. As a competitive ELR cartridge, its days are numbered if not already finished. As happened in in the early years of F-Class, development is taking place at a furious pace so the early contenders have quickly been overtaken. You need incredibly deep pockets and the ability to fund rapid changes to your kit to stay in contention in this discipline, a lot too rich for me even if I had the interest. Smaller calibres firing lighter bullets with higher BCs than those of the fifties are ballistically far superior, produce far less recoil and strains on the metalwork too making them easier to shoot and allowing weight to be saved on stocks and actions. When all is said and done, the 50 BMG is an incredibly powerful brute developed from the WW1 Mauser T-Gewehr anti-tank rifle round and surviving as a light anti-aircraft tool in its early years. Lapua developed its 338 LM (hardly a weakling) as the company believed that the 50BMG and similar rounds are only marginally suitable for a shoulder fired weapon muzzle brakes or no, and mentioned the risk of detached retinas amongst users.
sales of 416 Barrett barrels should be good....
Druid
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Disappointed but not suprised, it’s only been a matter of time. As with all things shooting, there is NO appetite by ANY colour of British government to allow shooting to continue without constant erosion of the sport.
I was thinking of getting a lever release too, tried one once, 9mm, great fun.
sadly fun is not a good enough reason obviously.
when I get 5 minutes my local conservative MP will be getting a stroppy letter reminding him that his party are doing a very good job of alienating a group that traditionally felt supported by them.
I was thinking of getting a lever release too, tried one once, 9mm, great fun.
sadly fun is not a good enough reason obviously.
when I get 5 minutes my local conservative MP will be getting a stroppy letter reminding him that his party are doing a very good job of alienating a group that traditionally felt supported by them.
reloader54
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A brief account of how we arrived at where we are now,,, from the sra blog.
http://www.shootersrights.org/content/blogposts/troll.pdf
http://www.shootersrights.org/content/blogposts/troll.pdf
Government are supposed to represent the people. Their failure to deliver on Brexit, the hounding of dissident voices like Tommy Robinson, the rise of lawlessness in our communities and virtue signalling legislation like the subject of this thread are different facets of the same issue:
When and how are we going to get a government that delivers on the common expectation of natural justice, proportionate legislation, peaceful neighbourhoods? How do we excise from government the passion for gesture politics that spawned this draft legislation?
When and how are we going to get a government that delivers on the common expectation of natural justice, proportionate legislation, peaceful neighbourhoods? How do we excise from government the passion for gesture politics that spawned this draft legislation?
Roro
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I have to agree. There now seems to be two worlds, the actual real everyday world that most of us occupy, with all its little trials and tribulations, putting up with crap and petty crime. And the other world of governments and media, who seem to live in a bubble of nonsense, where virtue signalling and pointless rubbish, like this legislation seem to be all they care about.
God help the UK if corbyn and co get into power, they will do far far worse than this, and its a real possibility.
We have allowed ourselves to become Britain's last colony. Where a remote ruling class metamorphoses its own fears a prejudices into the laws that it then imposes upon us. That, pure and simple, friends, is why we are where we are today. We have wished ourselves "plebis". We have become bovine almost.
There are some who will only be happy when Jacob Rees-Mogg or Jeremy Corbyn is Prime Minister with Nick Hurd or Diane Abbott Home Secretary and the only expression of free choice left being which of the 1 to 59 lottery numbers can be selected twice weekly to mark an X against at the local newsagents.
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reloader54
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reloader54
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"Wheres eleventeen on the ticket...?"
"don't know, don't care,, I'm gonna die my hair bright green, wear a dress and join a drug gang,,,, I can do as I damnwell like then and you can't even talk about me....I got rights"
Eleventeen? It's the one after ten. Sometimes also known as tenty-one, or, which can't be right mathematically, eleventy-one.
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Frank Homes
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And whats wrong with JRM? He talks a lot of sense albeit in a rather effete way.
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Frank Homes
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And of course he didn't say that.
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reloader54
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What we really need, due to unending Political correctness could never now be achieved. We have gone through too many years allowing idiots to make the laws, starting with joining the Common Market. The only way out I am afraid will be either Civil War or Revolution, and you younger folk mark my words in twenty years time. I said what was going to happen to this country 50 years ago and so far I feel like Nostradamus, because it's happened.
Roro
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What we really need, due to unending Political correctness could never now be achieved. We have gone through too many years allowing idiots to make the laws, starting with joining the Common Market. The only way out I am afraid will be either Civil War or Revolution, and you younger folk mark my words in twenty years time. I said what was going to happen to this country 50 years ago and so far I feel like Nostradamus, because it's happened.
Its the same now in the USA and mainland Europe, most countries are split down the middle between the right-on, politically correct, liberal, perpetually offended types, and the people who are just tired of it all, as i must say i am. The liberal types are forever campaigning for something, animal rights, gay rights, womens rights, whatever they achieve they are never satisfied, "the reactionary facists" are always unfair to them.
George Orwell was 100% correct with his novel 1984. You can see the parallels, newspeak etc.
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