stavross
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Might be who your thinking of
I might go down to Rob’s in February depending on work, I might just turn up at your door
On your own or with a mate
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I might go down to Rob’s in February depending on work, I might just turn up at your door
Well said that man
bottletopbill
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Thank you for helping others
I do a mixture. I have taken people out who have lost their ground so it gave them an outing where they were able to get back out whilst they were looking for their own land.
I have taken people out who have helped me get started.
I have taken the chef from one of the pubs out, where I supply the venison as he had never been and wanted to see the whole process.
And now I have taken someone out who wanted to learn to shoot and he has now got his first piece of land.
The biggest problem is that everybody wants to go out. I have now moved away from just taking people out.
I have actually now started charging people. Not a lot, but, if I take someone out and put them in the best spot where they are highly likely to shoot a deer, and I am going to end up sitting somewhere that I am unlikely to shoot, then they can cover the cost of the fuel. Also, if they xxxx the shot, they have bought the carcass. This is all upfront and told the. Before I go out.
The biggest issue is having someone who will be reliable. Ohh I only want to come out for an hour. Well, if I have driven 60 miles and the deer are not about, then we are on the rabbits or foxes or both. So I cannot plan when we will get home.
But one of the main things is that I always ask the permission of the landowners if I can bring people with me.
Tonight is a fox in a built up area and I will be on my own.
I have taken people out who have helped me get started.
I have taken the chef from one of the pubs out, where I supply the venison as he had never been and wanted to see the whole process.
And now I have taken someone out who wanted to learn to shoot and he has now got his first piece of land.
The biggest problem is that everybody wants to go out. I have now moved away from just taking people out.
I have actually now started charging people. Not a lot, but, if I take someone out and put them in the best spot where they are highly likely to shoot a deer, and I am going to end up sitting somewhere that I am unlikely to shoot, then they can cover the cost of the fuel. Also, if they xxxx the shot, they have bought the carcass. This is all upfront and told the. Before I go out.
The biggest issue is having someone who will be reliable. Ohh I only want to come out for an hour. Well, if I have driven 60 miles and the deer are not about, then we are on the rabbits or foxes or both. So I cannot plan when we will get home.
But one of the main things is that I always ask the permission of the landowners if I can bring people with me.
Tonight is a fox in a built up area and I will be on my own.
Its a dilemma which ever way you look at it and lots of "bad stories" where people break the trust shown in them.
I am always happy to try and help people but have been let down a few times and people seem to forget what gratitude is. On the flip side I had a chance meeting through work back in 2012 and one of the guys offered to take me out to shoot Sika in Dorset as I mentioned I had never shot a deer. 13 years later and we are great friends and we shoot together (well within 500 ish meters of each other) as many times as I can trek to Devon. I do try and repay the kind treatment with buying food and I paid for a CWD stalk in Bedfordshire as a thank you.
I am always happy to try and help people but have been let down a few times and people seem to forget what gratitude is. On the flip side I had a chance meeting through work back in 2012 and one of the guys offered to take me out to shoot Sika in Dorset as I mentioned I had never shot a deer. 13 years later and we are great friends and we shoot together (well within 500 ish meters of each other) as many times as I can trek to Devon. I do try and repay the kind treatment with buying food and I paid for a CWD stalk in Bedfordshire as a thank you.
Electric Ian
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I work as part of a team on deer management. It's challenging terrain and we always go out in two's, in case of falls and for deer extraction off the hills. Yesterday we went out in 3 gangs covering a valley each and accounted for 27 reds, the larder was packed and extremely busy but the crack and stories topped a very hard but enjoyable day.
gr cz527
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a gate assistant (i use another term!) is always handy! seriously i always prefer company. people who know the ground. no randoms. they may spot something you dont, passes the time and also a good blether and chat is good for evreyone. not just foxing or stalking, a spare pair of eyes or thought of some may spot something i miss or hadnt thought off.
I have 3 helpers that come out multiple times a week. I keep them to highseats (got 30 plus of them) and I like to keep to my self when stalking to keep as efficient as possible.
They can choose where they go and shoot what they like. I enjoy them being part of the team because it turns something solitary into something a bit more enjoyable with breakfast mornings in the woods.
It also helps with manual handling and it's great to have a gate b##ch
They can choose where they go and shoot what they like. I enjoy them being part of the team because it turns something solitary into something a bit more enjoyable with breakfast mornings in the woods.
It also helps with manual handling and it's great to have a gate b##ch
Nickb
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Thats great if you can find people with the same mindset as you. That is the difficult partI have 3 helpers that come out multiple times a week. I keep them to highseats (got 30 plus of them) and I like to keep to my self when stalking to keep as efficient as possible.
They can choose where they go and shoot what they like. I enjoy them being part of the team because it turns something solitary into something a bit more enjoyable with breakfast mornings in the woods.
It also helps with manual handling and it's great to have a gate b##ch
I've taken plenty people out over the years , some with the same mindset which worked but others with a different mindset didn't last long as there was no point.
Electric Ian
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I had known my mentor for two years before he invited me to accompany him on a stalk. He always used to chat to me and we’d talk about foxing and keeping, making sure as you say that we were like-minded. It was a proud day and one I’ll never forget the first time I accompanied him. Many years later we still spend time on the hills, he’s now 68 and still as agile as a mountain goat.Thats great if you can find people with the same mindset as you. That is the difficult part
I've taken plenty people out over the years , some with the same mindset which worked but others with a different mindset didn't last long as there was no point.
They are out there and they are worth finding to make stalking a more enjoyable. I'm lucky and worked extremely hard to build the access I have and it's good to share with people that appreciate it.Thats great if you can find people with the same mindset as you. That is the difficult part
I've taken plenty people out over the years , some with the same mindset which worked but others with a different mindset didn't last long as there was no point.
BenBhoy
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Thank god there aren't many like you then!Thats great if you can find people with the same mindset as you. That is the difficult part
Nickb
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ThankGod there aren't many like you either.
Brittany boy
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Another reason I’ve stopped because one so called friend who had been having a hard time in his work place and was depressed but not clinically so that it affected his suitability to hold a firearm, was taken out several times to different permissions I have and I then learned from my farmer friends that he had visited each of them the following season and tried to get permission from each of them , no need to say we don’t speak any longer.
Don't have much in way of ground now... been a few folk over the years take out a dew times bit zero offers back .....one was spectacular....pushing to get out all the time ...then found out he was in pheasant syndicate. Had his own ground...was hounding other folk as well to fet out in their ground etc..... he was rather put out when told him to f**king off and sussed him and his using ways ....
I like company....but im not in greatest position to return favour these days so usually alone but not always
Paul
I like company....but im not in greatest position to return favour these days so usually alone but not always
Paul
I like both sides of it TBH. There are times when a bit of solitude and the ability to do things exactly the way you want to them and when is lovely, but being out with a mate can make for such a good time. My regular shooting buddy is a guy I mentored when he was very first starting out. We sadly lost my best mate far too early in life and he would have been the one to teach his son-in-law. I stepped in and did it in his stead. We have become close friends and a good team whether foxing or on the deer.
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