One shot zero my arse!

[fizzbangwhallop]

I personally use 2 pard 007v’s and clive wards T Ceptor never had a problem with any of them and they both work perfectly one is cheapo and the other not so so it proves it can be done at a decent price across a range
What NV needs is a reasonable priced NV that works, with no special bits, good clarity and quality fittings and core

Just me but I find it a bitter pill when you have concerns after you’ve paid your money for something then new complaints roll in on its faults, the worst bit is when the manufacturer hasn’t really sorted the already known problems

Assuming you’re referring to the T-Ceptor Pro you get a choice of a range of mounts at extra, various price points…. fair play to Clive for providing a choice but they’re manufactured by Pulsar, Rusan and Innomount.

The first Zulus came with the 35MOA mount, however, if you look around you can get them supplied with 0MOA mounts instead depending on your rifle’s standard mount… eg it appears that different air rifles have different MOAs built in at manufacture.

But, in response to suggestions from reviewers and early users…
Arken have updated the firmware with improvements and have rapidly given users an aftermarket choice of 0 and 35 MOA mounts available in short, long and dovetail.
Digital Scope Rigid Precision Mounts. There’s also the option of a 940nm IR module.

I’m really impressed by the speed at which they reacted…. I’d have like to see a 20MOA option but I guess you can’t have everything… a bit of shim is no hardship.

Another positive is that Arken are also bringing out a 3-12 version for those wanting a wider fov at shorter range eg on rats. The range finder will also range closer than the 5-20 scope.

I can’t think of any other manufacturer that’s reacted like that

Get the ballistics right in the app and it’s a lot of scope for the money.

Cheers,
Fizz

 

[Overlay]

Assuming you’re referring to the T-Ceptor Pro you get a choice of a range of mounts at extra, various price points…. fair play to Clive for providing a choice.

The first Zulus came with the 35MOA mount, however, if you look around you can get them supplied with 0MOA mounts instead depending on your rifle’s standard mount… eg it appears that different air rifles have different MOAs built in at manufacture.

But, in response to suggestions from reviewers and early users…
Arken have updated the firmware with improvements and have rapidly given users an aftermarket choice of 0 and 35 MOA mounts available in short, long and dovetail.
Digital Scope Rigid Precision Mounts. There’s also the option of a 940nm IR module.

I’m really impressed by the speed at which they reacted…. I’d have like to see a 20MOA option but I guess you can’t have everything… a bit of shim is no hardship.

Another positive is that Arken are also bringing out a 3-12 version for those wanting a wider fov at shorter range eg on rats. The range finder will also range closer than the 5-20 scope.

I can’t think of any other manufacturer that’s reacted like that

Get the ballistics right in the app and it’s a lot of scope for the money.

Cheers,
Fizz

With the t ceptor pro you get exactly what you pay for as you do with the 007 even the eyepiece mounts on the 007 work properly both with no faffing or let down
My t ceptor is on a blaser mount the one that came as standard is still in the box that also was tried and tested and works
If some can do it, there’s room for improvement with others

 

[fizzbangwhallop]

With the t ceptor pro you get exactly what you pay for as you do with the 007 even the eyepiece mounts on the 007 work properly both with no faffing or let down
My t ceptor is on a blaser mount the one that came as standard is still in the box that also was tried and tested and works
If some can do it, there’s room for improvement with others

I’ve just edited my post to reflect the fact that you need to add a choice of mount by Pulsar, Rusan or Innomount to a T-Ceptor Pro… or even MAK.

It’s not obvious it comes with its own standard mount?

 

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I’ve just edited my post to reflect the fact that you need to add a choice of mount by Pulsar, Rusan or Innomount to a T-Ceptor Pro… or even MAK.

It’s not obvious it comes with its own standard mount?

Irrelevant really, you buy what suit your rifle or excising mount, difference is and it works first time, all the time
You don’t get the standard which may or may not fit, buy once for the right set up, not hoping it will fit, work and shoot straight as really what the thread is about a sub standard or parts

 

[Pellet Pinger]

So you just pays your money and hope that for you it works?
Can u give a few examples of other goods where you would accept this as standard?

I knew it would work, fixing a potential alignment issue isnt rocket science, as it happens mine didn’t need any adjustment on the aftermarket mounts i already had but for some its like the biggest drama ever!
I bought one, used it alot and i’m mightily impressed so bought another and will continue to use them while the folk that havent even looked through one prattle on about how awful the thought of possibly having to slip a slither of metal somwhere is

 

[mealiejimmy]

Irrelevant really, you buy what suit your rifle or excising mount, difference is and it works first time, all the time
You don’t get the standard which may or may not fit, buy once for the right set up, not hoping it will fit, work and shoot straight as really what the thread is about a sub standard or parts

Just remind us of the serial number of your Arken Zulus?
Oh, you don't actually have one - in that case you might be advised to actually get your hands on one and try it before slagging off a product which has sold in it's hundreds in the short time it has been on the market with almost total approval from its users and the only negative comments coming from people who don't own or use one

Cheers

Bruce

 

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I knew it would work, fixing a potential alignment issue isnt rocket science, as it happens mine didn’t need any adjustment on the aftermarket mounts i already had but for some its like the biggest drama ever!
I bought one, used it alot and i’m mightily impressed so bought another and will continue to use them while the folk that havent even looked through one prattle on about how awful the thought of possibly having to slip a slither of metal somwhere is

Nice and clear video. PP
Nice to see when it all comes together, what caliber you using by the way

 

[Foxyboy43]

I knew it would work, fixing a potential alignment issue isnt rocket science, as it happens mine didn’t need any adjustment on the aftermarket mounts i already had but for some its like the biggest drama ever!
I bought one, used it alot and i’m mightily impressed so bought another and will continue to use them while the folk that havent even looked through one prattle on about how awful the thought of possibly having to slip a slither of metal somwhere is

Knowing it would work must have been great for you.
But what if you were one of the apparently quite a few who shared your thought but it hadn’t or say you had bought something else that didn’t work or fit? The point for me is that where the manufacturer knows there is a problem with their product they should fix it - preferably before sale or at least very soon after and not by depending on complaints from unsatisfied customers. That's a tenet of good business and making more sales.Their reputation is on the line; the intelligent consumer will research the scope and will judge on the information to hand. Personally I do rate the scope itself, have looked through one which incidentally had to have the mount replaced (can you guess why?) so because of this utterly dismal service I will not buy one.

 

[Pellet Pinger]

Nice and clear video. PP
Nice to see when it all comes together, what caliber you using by the way

Cheers, like i say its certainly impressed me, especially with increased magnification, .223 on the foxes/muntys and 17HMR on the rabbits.

 

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Assuming you’re referring to the T-Ceptor Pro you get a choice of a range of mounts at extra, various price points…. fair play to Clive for providing a choice but they’re manufactured by Pulsar, Rusan and Innomount.

The first Zulus came with the 35MOA mount, however, if you look around you can get them supplied with 0MOA mounts instead depending on your rifle’s standard mount… eg it appears that different air rifles have different MOAs built in at manufacture.

But, in response to suggestions from reviewers and early users…
Arken have updated the firmware with improvements and have rapidly given users an aftermarket choice of 0 and 35 MOA mounts available in short, long and dovetail.
Digital Scope Rigid Precision Mounts. There’s also the option of a 940nm IR module.

I’m really impressed by the speed at which they reacted…. I’d have like to see a 20MOA option but I guess you can’t have everything… a bit of shim is no hardship.

Another positive is that Arken are also bringing out a 3-12 version for those wanting a wider fov at shorter range eg on rats. The range finder will also range closer than the 5-20 scope.

I can’t think of any other manufacturer that’s reacted like that

Get the ballistics right in the app and it’s a lot of scope for the money.

Cheers,
Fizz

That mount option looks good

Just remind us of the serial number of your Arken Zulus?
Oh, you don't actually have one - in that case you might be advised to actually get your hands on one and try it before slagging off a product which has sold in it's hundreds in the short time it has been on the market with almost total approval from its users and the only negative comments coming from people who don't own or use one

Cheers

Bruce

Bruce
I would have thought it’s pretty obvious why I don’t have one, just going on what reports that come back, I’m fed up and so are many others of buying gear that don’t come up to the mark

It’s alright banging on about the quality of the picture and reticule alignment etc etc, that looks a cracking video put up earlier and the rifle shoots straight brilliant - very nice, but it’s not about that one unit

but to be honest mate if you can’t fix the unit soundly onto a rifle without having to faff about it ain’t worth the money

If there is a problem with mounting or anything else - hands up and get it fixed, all that is needed is an all round well made reliable unit that works all the time with no faffing about, if that’s not possible and it’s nearly there on all points work in progress.
If a company expects people to throw money at a unit, it has to work 100%

You wouldn’t go into tescos to buy 6 sausages only to find there’s only five when you get home and open the box

The unit could well be the best in the market, but it ain’t no good if you can’t use it

 

[Pellet Pinger]

Knowing it would work must have been great for you.
But what if you were one of the apparently quite a few who shared your thought but it hadn’t or say you had bought something else that didn’t work or fit? The point for me is that where the manufacturer knows there is a problem with their product they should fix it - preferably before sale or at least very soon after and not by depending on complaints from unsatisfied customers. That's a tenet of good business and making more sales.Their reputation is on the line; the intelligent consumer will research the scope and will judge on the information to hand. Personally I do rate the scope itself, have looked through one which incidentally had to have the mount replaced (can you guess why?) so because of this utterly dismal service I will not buy one.

If i’d had a problem i would have sent it back, simple, its no real drama.

Forgive me, i do find your last post a little ironic as you mention often about the fact that you use a Pard 008 that uses without question the most complained about mounting system in the history of dedicated night vision.
Bolts made of cheese, can’t cycle the rifle bolt because it hits either the scope or bolts, pretty much everyone had to shim theirs including me.
Each to their own

 

[mealiejimmy]

The unit is 100% usable - despite the unfounded furore over the mounts
Put the scope on the mount and screw the scope to mount - make sure screws are tight so the scope does not move in the mount irrespective of where the base and sides of the scope are relative to the mount - because that is irrelevant
Fit the scope to the rail on the rifle
Tighten the screws attaching the scope to the rail
Zero the scope at your chosen distance
If the reticle is too low or too high for your OCD, then place a shim or shims between the mount and the underside of the scope
Re-Zero and if necessary, adjust the shims (if you need to do this, see your Doctor about your OCD - it's bad)
Job done
Arken have done what no other manufacturer of digital scopes have done - they have given users the choice of 4 different mounts and 2 different IR modules - and they will soon have a x3-12 version of the scope available for which all those mounts and IR modules can be used
It sometimes seems that the more choice people get, the more they complain

Cheers

Bruce

 

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If i’d had a problem i would have sent it back, simple, its no real drama.

Forgive me, i do find your last post a little ironic as you mention often about the fact that you use a Pard 008 that uses without question the most complained about mounting system in the history of dedicated night vision.
Bolts made of cheese, can’t cycle the rifle bolt because it hits either the scope or bolts, pretty much everyone had to shim theirs including me.
Each to their own

I have never had or will have a 008 if I said that its a 100% typo ( I can’t stand the bloody things)( I will try and find that) I only have 2 x pard 007

The bits I got with the pard 007 x2 have worked perfectly and why I have stuck with them I’ve never had a problem on 4 scopes from PCP through to 204 not one problem, I have a rusan fitting on another scope and that works perfectly for the make of scope
I would like to put a new NV on my spare hornet, with all the noise about not working, won’t fit, reticule alignment etc etc does that not make you think to stay with what you’ve got until it gets sorted out

 

[Pellet Pinger]

I have never had or will have a 008 if I said that its a 100% typo ( I can’t stand the bloody things)( I will try and find that) I only have 2 x pard 007

The bits I got with the pard 007 x2 have worked perfectly and why I have stuck with them I’ve never had a problem on 4 scopes from PCP through to 204 not one problem, I have a rusan fitting on another scope and that works perfectly for the make of scope
I would like to put a new NV on my spare hornet, with all the noise about not working, won’t fit, reticule alignment etc etc does that not make you think to stay with what you’ve got until it gets sorted out

If you are in the market for something to go on the hornet you have nothing to loose, why not go for it and try the non LRF Arken, buy online for £430 and give it a whirl, if you don’t like it send it back under the distance selling rules, all it will cost you is 11 quid return postage, try before you buy!

 

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If you are in the market for something to go on the hornet you have nothing to loose, why not go for it and try the non LRF Arken, buy online for £430 and give it a whirl, if you don’t like it send it back under the distance selling rules, all it will cost you is 11 quid return postage, try before you buy!

Thanks PP
I will have a look, who supplies them online
Cheers
Phil

 

[Pellet Pinger]

Thanks PP
I will have a look, who supplies them online
Cheers
Phil

I bought one direct from Arken and the other from DAB shooting supplies at the time they were the only ones with the non LRF as i have LRF thermal.
Im sure @Blackwood Outdoors would sort you out.

 

[charlie222]

An observation on nv scopes from multiple manufacturers. You pay roughly between 500 quid and a grand and they all do pretty much what they say on the tin. Most of the gripes are about quality control/build quality issues across all the brands.
If I want to buy a variable mag 50mm day scope I can pay 50 quid or thousands. We have the same choice in rifles. The NV gear is being built to a price, why is there no one sticking there necks out on quality?

 

[Foxyboy43]

If i’d had a problem i would have sent it back, simple, its no real drama.

Forgive me, i do find your last post a little ironic as you mention often about the fact that you use a Pard 008 that uses without question the most complained about mounting system in the history of dedicated night vision.
Bolts made of cheese, can’t cycle the rifle bolt because it hits either the scope or bolts, pretty much everyone had to shim theirs including me.
Each to their own

Indeed I do use the Pard 008P and as stated earlier it is indeed shimmed. Not sure about “ironic” though - maybe I really am old-fashioned but having been in the shim-bin I prefer to call it learning by experience. Soooo I ain’t buying anything else I may have to use a coke tin to get straight/elevate; nor am I going to punt £500 on something that may need shimming - even though I can send it back (hopefully).
I wait with interest to see the outcome of these reported issues.

 

[davelloyd91]

I knew it would work, fixing a potential alignment issue isnt rocket science, as it happens mine didn’t need any adjustment on the aftermarket mounts i already had but for some its like the biggest drama ever!
I bought one, used it alot and i’m mightily impressed so bought another and will continue to use them while the folk that havent even looked through one prattle on about how awful the thought of possibly having to slip a slither of metal somwhere is

Cracking footage. I’ve just bought one myself yesterday so I’m not awaiting delivery. Do you use the long or short mount on your .223?

 

[jthyttin]

Arken have done what no other manufacturer of digital scopes have done - they have given users the choice of 4 different mounts and 2 different IR modules

Earlier on Pulsar ventured on offering mounts for different interfaces and had at least 4. They also offered at least 3 different "IR modules" (was it the ultra series? anyway plugged to the side of the scope). The different mounts might not have been in production at that date, but they were available since Pulsar hadn't changed the interface between scope and mount.