Pard NV vs Sightline N450s

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Thinking of getting another NV unit as using the lamp really doesn't float my boat. In the past I ran a Drone 10x which was fantastic if a little bulky. Im looking for first hand experience comparing these units. I would consider a Pard 007 but my scope may not be ideal (too nice and I wont change it for a crap one!) or a Pard 008 and I have seen some solid reviews on the Yukon Sightline N450s and 470s. I seldom use above 8x at night so the 450S would seem like the best bet for me with its 4-16 mag. What are people using and how do you find the image quality, tendency to white out, ability to hold zero and field of view?
Thanks
 
I’ve had all the nv units you mention and more. The n470s is really good unit at night and doesn’t need as much IR as the others. Black and white only so ideal for night use. Pard 008 is a good unit ideal on a rimfire or air rifle. The wraith is another useful nv scope for the money.
 
I’m Using the Yukon 470 S units on 4 of my rifles .22 rimmy, 17 Mach 2 and the 17 hornet for rabbits with .243 for foxing with the pulsar 355 on the 22 hornet and thermal on the 222
they all work brilliantly, ive got an additional variable power 850 NM IR on the hornet, the main eye opener was on the 17 hornet really good long range rabbit rifle the 470 s is superb on this, clear and a sharp picture as on all of them, it was a game changer to be able to easily ID and shoot rabbits clearly at 240 + yds ( long way for me, that was normally 222 range ) the combination is ideal, never had a problem with any of them, looks and feels like a conventional scope with a 100% reliable mount fixing, nothing not to like really and easy to set up and just right for me and ive yet to have any problems with any of mine

i have used the 008, another good scope, i’ve always had an issue with the mounting system and updates etc so for me, i’ll stick with what I like and get good use out of, i also gauge on retail usage, not very often you see a Yukon for sale, but you often see the 008 up for grabs, that could either be that there are a lot being sold but also they didn’t come up to what people want from them and they move on

only my thoughts, I’m not one for gimmicks i just want it to work as it should, the Yukon 470s suits me 100%

good luck

phil
 
IMHO if you’ve been using a Drone 10X nothing else comes close to that NV wise. Try a Pard 007 and if your scope can handle it and you the different shooting position I’d personally go that route.
 
Herb64 said:
IMHO if you’ve been using a Drone 10X nothing else comes close to that NV wise. Try a Pard 007 and if your scope can handle it and you the different shooting position I’d personally go that route.
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I have thought long and hard about Pard 007 and I suspect I can get one to have a look through my scopes to see if it would work. I have been told the Leupold may be a no go but I don’t know about Kahles or S&B. The drone was awesome but it was sat there doing very little most of the time and I needed to fund a PMII so it had to go. Some of the videos on YouTube show good picture quality with the Pards, N450s and 470s. Having £5-600 on the shelf for occasional use is much easier to accept than almost £2k
 
philip said:
I’m Using the Yukon 470 S units on 4 of my rifles .22 rimmy, 17 Mach 2 and the 17 hornet for rabbits with .243 for foxing with the pulsar 355 on the 22 hornet and thermal on the 222
they all work brilliantly, ive got an additional variable power 850 NM IR on the hornet, the main eye opener was on the 17 hornet really good long range rabbit rifle the 470 s is superb on this, clear and a sharp picture as on all of them, it was a game changer to be able to easily ID and shoot rabbits clearly at 240 + yds ( long way for me, that was normally 222 range ) the combination is ideal, never had a problem with any of them, looks and feels like a conventional scope with a 100% reliable mount fixing, nothing not to like really and easy to set up and just right for me and ive yet to have any problems with any of mine

i have used the 008, another good scope, i’ve always had an issue with the mounting system and updates etc so for me, i’ll stick with what I like and get good use out of, i also gauge on retail usage, not very often you see a Yukon for sale, but you often see the 008 up for grabs, that could either be that there are a lot being sold but also they didn’t come up to what people want from them and they move on

only my thoughts, I’m not one for gimmicks i just want it to work as it should, the Yukon 470s suits me 100%

good luck

phil
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Really interesting...Do you switch the 470 between rifles regularly, if so how reliably does it return to zero?
 
SussexSteve said:
I’ve had all the nv units you mention and more. The n470s is really good unit at night and doesn’t need as much IR as the others. Black and white only so ideal for night use. Pard 008 is a good unit ideal on a rimfire or air rifle. The wraith is another useful nv scope for the money.
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The 008 is ideal on a centre fire rifle too I looked through a wraith again ideal on cv a slightly more narrow field of view to my pard which take some beating for the £
 
Try a Sightmark Wraith, order from Scott Country and you get a 2wk trial, it's a no quibble money back guarantee, you'll not regret it, lighter, less bulky and more affordable than the drone
 
srvet said:
It’s zeroedReally interesting...Do you switch the 470 between rifles regularly, if so how reliably does it return to zero?
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on the 22 rimmy, 222 and the 243 they are All separate 470 units and I change these over regularly from NV to day scope as required, never lost zero, they are all on QD Blaser system, the 2 hornets and 17 Mach 2 (Annie and CZ) are on the rifles permanently on a standard picatinny rail

never had a problem with any of them for zeroing as well, on the 22 hornet is a pulsar N355 on permanently which has never given me any problems and they all get used very regularly

if you can put together a good QD system for a day scope and a NV the worlds you oyster, I have on the blaser‘s a set back picatinny rail on a QD for the 470 and a standard ring mount again in QD for the day scope

nothing is cheap but its the best I've found and its works perfectly for me and very simple to put together, i can go from crystal clear day scope to night vision in less than a minute and know they are both in zero and its permanent.

i did quite a while ago get fed up to the gills with chopping and changing scopes / NV re zeroing, losing zero, rubbish mounts etc etc, hearing all the negative things about night vision and the speed they change / upgrade. I stuck with Yukon/pulsar as they have never let me down with NV, thermal scope and thermal cameras for spotting they suit me 100%
Prior to the 470 I was using the good old photon for years, swapped the whole lot over to the 470

there are probably loads more unit makes out there that are better, but you buy what you want and works for you, I’m very happy with mine

good luck on whatever you choose
 
Just bought a Pard 007a as my intro to NV. Picture is very good day and night so I bought an additional collar to switch it between the 17 hmr and the 222 (don’t tell the FEOs). Took a bit of fiddling to get a comfortable head position but between moving the scopes forward and adding a recoil pad at the blunt end they both feel good now to the extent that I use the Pard full time on both. Been very impressed with the video quality and considering adding an IR but getting lots of conflicting advice on choice! The onboard is good probably for foxes just beyond 100 but I think it would really benefit from a decent add-on. Suggestions welcomed plz!
🦊🦊
 
srvet said:
Hi
Thinking of getting another NV unit as using the lamp really doesn't float my boat. In the past I ran a Drone 10x which was fantastic if a little bulky. Im looking for first hand experience comparing these units. I would consider a Pard 007 but my scope may not be ideal (too nice and I wont change it for a crap one!) or a Pard 008 and I have seen some solid reviews on the Yukon Sightline N450s and 470s. I seldom use above 8x at night so the 450S would seem like the best bet for me with its 4-16 mag. What are people using and how do you find the image quality, tendency to white out, ability to hold zero and field of view?
Thanks
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What scopes will you be using it on?

Sam
 
Foxyboy43 said:
Just bought a Pard 007a as my intro to NV. Picture is very good day and night so I bought an additional collar to switch it between the 17 hmr and the 222 (don’t tell the FEOs). Took a bit of fiddling to get a comfortable head position but between moving the scopes forward and adding a recoil pad at the blunt end they both feel good now to the extent that I use the Pard full time on both. Been very impressed with the video quality and considering adding an IR but getting lots of conflicting advice on choice! The onboard is good probably for foxes just beyond 100 but I think it would really benefit from a decent add-on. Suggestions welcomed plz!
🦊🦊
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Solaris srx 👍
 
Foxyboy43 said:
Just bought a Pard 007a as my intro to NV. Picture is very good day and night so I bought an additional collar to switch it between the 17 hmr and the 222 (don’t tell the FEOs). Took a bit of fiddling to get a comfortable head position but between moving the scopes forward and adding a recoil pad at the blunt end they both feel good now to the extent that I use the Pard full time on both. Been very impressed with the video quality and considering adding an IR but getting lots of conflicting advice on choice! The onboard is good probably for foxes just beyond 100 but I think it would really benefit from a decent add-on. Suggestions welcomed plz!
🦊🦊
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The PBir L is great, used Solaris to and the PBir is a much cleaner light!

Sam
 
norma 308 said:
The 008 is ideal on a centre fire rifle too I looked through a wraith again ideal on cv a slightly more narrow field of view to my pard which take some beating for the £
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About 2 months ago I purchased a new Pard nv 800p for use on my 223.
I also purchased a Sirius XTL. With the additional ir in use, I can clearly identify rabbits at 300 yds plus. On the max magnification, targets are clearly visible at distances beyond where I would take the shot.
The Pard was very easy to zero.
I had read the criticism of the mounting system but I am perfectly happy with it. The issues, I believe, are from over tightening.
I had narrowed down my choice to between the Pard and the Wraith but I have to say, I am delighted with my choice.
 
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