Parker/Hale

[bogtrotter]

I purchased an old Parker/Hale to replace my .243 due the imminent change to non toxic also need to fit a mod as it is requirement of the forestry company now I.know I can now get 100gr bullets that will stabilise in the .243 however I want to get the 270 up and running
So hopefully there are some Parker/Hale owners that can help me out now this rifle came with inch rings but I have a scope lying around that I would press into action it's a
Hawke sidewinder 6-24×56 I will need 3 0mm
rings what size are the bases I measured and I make them 20mm but I don't think that's right for Parker/Hale the front base is marked
28A and the rear 22A
Questions will I still be able to get Parker/Hale rings in 30mm , what height of mounts will I need for 56 objective mid or high , what other make apart from Parker/Hale will fit my bases.
Thanks in advance.

 

[angusb1]

I haven't tried them but according to Leopold's guide they do bases and rings for the Parker Hales. They are in the Mauser section https://www.leupold.com/media/manuals/base_ring_fit_guide_2021.pdf

Matte bases are 50026. The guide says a 56mm scope with a 30mm tube should have super high standard rings which are ref 51033.

 

[angusb1]

Just been having a look and I can't find anyone with the bases in stock. The ones for Parker Hales are the Leupold Mauser FN ones not the Leopold Mauser K98 ones.

 

[long_range_rob]

Honestly there must be hundreds lying around in small gunsmith all over the country. I’d start ringing around like J.R. Hartley.

 

[VSS]

Very few Parker-Hale 30mm rings were manufactured, as 30mm scopes were only just becoming a "thing" at around the time that P-H were beginning to wind up.
Consequently, they're rarer than hen's teeth. I gave up looking, and got a 1" scope instead. You will need high (RAH) for a 56mm objective.
If you can change the bases on the rifle for weaver bases you will be OK. There are weaver bases that are compatible with the hole spacings, but I forget the specific part code number now. I tried to buy some, but they always seem to be out of stock.

 

[gonzo]

A friend had a 270 PH with those same bases. We struggled like hell to get even 25mm rings to match. Even with some custom fettling. The correct mounts really are rare and difficult to find.
Luckilly the guy actually had the correct rings on a scope that came off that gun, but had gotten misplaced. Which finally turned up.

If it was my rifle, I would replace the bases with something more standard. Though that will probably need custom fitting.

 

[angusb1]

Looks like @Edinburgh Rifles might be able to help you out

Correct mounts for a Parker Hale?

 

[bogtrotter]

Very few Parker-Hale 30mm rings were manufactured, as 30mm scopes were only just becoming a "thing" at around the time that P-H were beginning to wind up.
Consequently, they're rarer than hen's teeth. I gave up looking, and got a 1" scope instead. You will need high (RAH) for a 56mm objective.
If you can change the bases on the rifle for weaver bases you will be OK. There are weaver bases that are compatible with the hole spacings, but I forget the specific part code number now. I tried to buy some, but they always seem to be out of stock.

A friend had a 270 PH with those same bases. We

Very few Parker-Hale 30mm rings were manufactured, as 30mm scopes were only just becoming a "thing" at around the time that P-H were beginning to wind up.
Consequently, they're rarer than hen's teeth. I gave up looking, and got a 1" scope instead. You will need high (RAH) for a 56mm objective.
If you can change the bases on the rifle for weaver bases you will be OK. There are weaver bases that are compatible with the hole spacings, but I forget the specific part code number now. I tried to buy some, but they always seem to be out of stock.

struggled like hell to get even 25mm rings to match. Even with some custom fettling. The correct mounts really are rare and difficult to find.
Luckilly the guy actually had the correct rings on a scope that came off that gun, but had gotten misplaced. Which finally turned up.

If it was my rifle, I would replace the bases with something more standard. Though that will probably need custom fitting.

Thanks for that I might do that or look for a 1 inch scope as I have the proper rings for that.

 

[rab19]

I ended up fitting one of these rails and still only able to fit three screws instead of four due to the spacing but it's tight enough.
Alan Rhone Store

I have a set of FN bases, Part number 50026, and 30mm rings which I had fitted to my P/H if you are interested but there are only three base screws -I needed one to fit the rail. There are however two Recknagel slightly longer screws which may fit your P/H and if they are too long a bit of fettling should work and if not I think Leupold do spares.

Just checked the ring height, 7mm from the bottom of the ring where it locks into the base to the bottom of the saddle, add this to the base thickness and good to go. I had a Hawke 50mm on and there was still space between the bell and barrel but would not know if there would be enough for a 56mm.

 

[tozzybum]

Fitted the same myself and only 3 of 4 holes line up as you say.
Find all the parker hale info I have it may help .
Or plan b get a gunsmith to make the xtra hole in the Recknagel weaver rail .

 

[tozzybum]

As Tim ,Vss said 1" tube is where I've got to on my .270 ph

 

[stevec]

I use Conetrol bases and rings on my Parker Hale. They do almost every diameter and height you can think of, delivery is very quick and they look smart. They are a pain to fit though.

 

[Fosbery Holster]

@bogtrotter …….just been looking at your post and it seems to me that the bases on your Parker Hale are correct, obviously they are of different heights to compensate for the difference in the level of the receiver rings. 28A is .325 in height/thickness and 22A is .173.
The actual dovetail measurement is 19.5.
The Parker Hale rings you already have definitely fit those bases so you have a starting point, they came in three different heights Low, medium and high, on each pair of rings they would be stamped with a code, just for arguments sake it could say RALS3 or similar…….What is marked on yours ? The code tells us lots but also tells us the scope tube diameter, most probably 1” or 25.4mm in your case.

If for example you know of a friendly engineer/someone good with metalworking you could possibly have your original scope rings opened out to take your 30mm Hawke sidewinder.

angusb1 suggestion above is a good call “Edinburgh rifles” will be most helpful and because you’re a Scottish person and you normally plead poverty “Ed” will probably have pity on you and supply you with something for nothing and even pay the postage, he’s a good man is “Ed” !

 

[243varmint]

Leupold do bases that you can use piccatinny rings.
I've got them on my PH actioned 9.3x62.
Look under thier Masuer 98 section.

 

[Sonicdmb73]

I purchased an old Parker/Hale to replace my .243 due the imminent change to non toxic also need to fit a mod as it is requirement of the forestry company now I.know I can now get 100gr bullets that will stabilise in the .243 however I want to get the 270 up and running
So hopefully there are some Parker/Hale owners that can help me out now this rifle came with inch rings but I have a scope lying around that I would press into action it's a
Hawke sidewinder 6-24×56 I will need 3 0mm
rings what size are the bases I measured and I make them 20mm but I don't think that's right for Parker/Hale the front base is marked
28A and the rear 22A
Questions will I still be able to get Parker/Hale rings in 30mm , what height of mounts will I need for 56 objective mid or high , what other make apart from Parker/Hale will fit my bases.
Thanks in advance.

They are the same as the CZ550 rings 19mm iirc try sports match.
I had a set of PH rings that went from my BSA CF2 to my CZ550.

 

[HonestJohn]

I purchased an old Parker/Hale to replace my .243 due the imminent change to non toxic also need to fit a mod as it is requirement of the forestry company now I.know I can now get 100gr bullets that will stabilise in the .243 however I want to get the 270 up and running
So hopefully there are some Parker/Hale owners that can help me out now this rifle came with inch rings but I have a scope lying around that I would press into action it's a
Hawke sidewinder 6-24×56 I will need 3 0mm
rings what size are the bases I measured and I make them 20mm but I don't think that's right for Parker/Hale the front base is marked
28A and the rear 22A
Questions will I still be able to get Parker/Hale rings in 30mm , what height of mounts will I need for 56 objective mid or high , what other make apart from Parker/Hale will fit my bases.
Thanks in advance.

You have millions of options with a Mauser action, spread from the diet cheap Chinese to US made high quality steel, to the Surgical German stuff. The old wonky alu PH is not really an option for you in 30mm however. Sure, Emma Custom Rifles might have a set, but he’ll want more for them than you paid for the gun I suspect.

I’d ask myself a different question, “do I really want a Hawke scope on a .270?”. Also, that’s a bloody big objective for a PH comb height, I hope you don’t plan on prone shooting

 

[enfieldspares]

Just been having a look and I can't find anyone with the bases in stock. The ones for Parker Hales are the Leupold Mauser FN ones not the Leopold Mauser K98 ones.

Try Norman Clarke at Rugby or Joe Beatham at Gunshop EB in East Barnet. But be aware of bolt handle clearance on large rear bell end 'scopes.

 

[bogtrotter]

You have millions of options with a Mauser action, spread from the diet cheap Chinese to US made high quality steel, to the Surgical German stuff. The old wonky alu PH is not really an option for you in 30mm however. Sure, Emma Custom Rifles might have a set, but he’ll want more for them than you paid for the gun I suspect.

I’d ask myself a different question, “do I really want a Hawke scope on a .270?”. Also, that’s a bloody big objective for a PH comb height, I hope you don’t plan on prone shooting

Yes just been thinking comb height might have to consider going back to an inch scope
I have rings for that something like a 6×42 or even 4x40 .
Had to fit a comb raiser to my sako .243 when I put a scope with a 50 objective on it
also had to remove some metal from the bolt
to clear the bolt even with high rings don't
really want to do that with the .270
As for the Hawke they are not the scopes they used to be the newer ones are reasonable scopes they should be at the over
£500 I know quite a few people with them on
full bore rifles with no.problems.
Yes I get your point regarding prone shooting
Which most of mine is.

 

[bogtrotter]

Try Norman Clarke at Rugby or Joe Beatham at Gunshop EB in East Barnet. But be aware of bolt handle clearance on large rear bell end 'scopes.

Thanks good point regarding bolt.

 

[enfieldspares]

I have Leopold (actually Redfield) 'turn in' type on my PH. With an back set type front ring. Redfield made these ring and mount syle then went bankrupt or closed down, and Leupold adopted the design.