Pcp air rifle
- Thread starter bobby18
- Start date
Hi Bobby,
I thought about one of these but after reading reviews etc I found that internally the build quality is pretty poor and may not last that long. I ended up with a second hand Daystate Air Wolf.
Check out theairgungearshow on you tube for loads of reviews.
I have had quite a few air rifles over the years and have settled on a BSA Ultra SE for ratting which is just about perfect for me. It’s short and light, which really counts when you start to add a mod, bipod, NV add on and illumination etc. A 22 PCP will give more shots per charge than a 177, which might matter with a rifle with a small reservoir if you don’t fancy lugging your cylinder with you. Mine is regulated (and de-twanged), which has doubled the factory shot count per charge. Magazines are reliable and cheap enough to buy a few spares.
Last edited:
Erik Hamburger
Well-Known Member
The Air Arms S410 Carbine I use is some 12 years old, and still 'holds' its charge for many months, and is very accurate, great to control Grey Squirrels and other small pests.
enfieldspares
Well-Known Member
On a .177 PCP getting a good airgun gunsmith to fit a regulator is the best value aftermarket modification you can do. The money you've paid to do it will re-pay itself in the savings in actual cost, time cost and transport cost (petrol) on re-charging your diver's bottle and with that greater shot count you can stay out longer past normal bedtime. Having said that I am uncertain if it makes the same significant benefit in a .22 PCP as it does in a .177 PCP. Certainly when I asked Phil Crampton at Ratworks if it was any benefit to fit a regulator to my .22 BSA Scorpion T-10 as he had to my .177 BSA Scorpion T-10 he said that in his opinion it wasn't necessary.
I have always favoured Daystate air rifles and they've always performed well for me. Since I took on my FAC Airwolf, my Harrier has sat dormant. I'd let that go as a set up in your budget. You're welcome to come have a look/test.
I fitted a Huma regulator myself, and it was an easy job. That took my rifle from 40 chronographed +-5fps 'sweet spot' shots to 60. Adding a de-twanger, which reduces hammer bounce and thus air wastage, added another 20 shots.
The rifle is now very frugal on air, and consequently very quiet with the HW moderator, despite the short barrel.
enfieldspares
Well-Known Member
I tried a few moderators and after trying the HW, the BSA VC and the Hogan Decimeator I settled on the Hogan as being the best overall in terms of size, weight and noise reduction. I don't know which moderator Phil Crampton fitted to my .177 BSA but it was the one that doesn't need a hole drilled in the gun. I think that these "early" BSA PCP including your later Ultra SE model rifles are vastly underrated.
Another one for Air Arms or Daystate. Daystate service should you ever need it can be problematical, whereas AA has always been very helpful.
177 cal is flatter shooting but can "pencil" though some quarry, 22 cal certainly has more knockdown power.
177 cal is flatter shooting but can "pencil" though some quarry, 22 cal certainly has more knockdown power.
All I know is my PCP .22 gamo phox that i bought off a member from here performs really well, hole on hole near as from 30 yards. 40 or so sweet shots within power curve, more than enough for pest control or target stuff. Easy to work on, if needed, adjustable trigger, quiet , and great price new , even better second hand ! You won’t be disappointed, read the reviews.
enfieldspares
Well-Known Member
Fixed! And AFAIR it was a Tench regulator. Anyway it's the one that doesn't need a so called breath hole drilling and adds 36mm length between the air reservoir and the action.
Last edited:
Air arms S200 or 410 in .22. Alternatively an early Daystate but not one of the new ones. Air Arms very good to deal with, sadly Daystae not intrested in dealing with customers any more.
I have had a Daystate LR 90 FTR for 25+ years and have one of the very first S200's both excellent, very reiable and DIY mendable if you need to replace seals.
Mate picked up a Falcon light weight hunter last week, lovely PCP paid £250 ish for it. Similar design to the early Daystates.
D
I have had a Daystate LR 90 FTR for 25+ years and have one of the very first S200's both excellent, very reiable and DIY mendable if you need to replace seals.
Mate picked up a Falcon light weight hunter last week, lovely PCP paid £250 ish for it. Similar design to the early Daystates.
D
enfieldspares
Well-Known Member
Like our cartridge rifles using smokeless powders the smaller the diameter of the bullet for the same "burn" weight of powder the less efficient it is made use of. Therefore, yes, all else being equal an unregulated .177 PCP will give a lower shot count that an unregulated .22 PCP for the same volume of air in its air reservoir as the smaller calibre uses more air per pull of the trigger. It uses the air less efficiently or rather more wastefully. Or something like that. But if the .177 is regulated with an efficient regulator it can make more efficient use of its air and so then you do get an increase in shot count. Maybe call Phil Crampton at Ratworks in Leicestershire and he'll explain it better.
Brittany boy
Well-Known Member
Just picked up a second hand air arms 510 , 2x magazines 3 litre bottle with 3 years test still on it 3x9x50 mill dot Hawk scope silencer for £550, think it quite a good deal been looking for one for a few years and was just about to go for the HW110 deal for £999 from pellpax , both seem to get a good write up so happy with the deal. Will get out on the farm ferals in the next couple of days.
Fursty Ferret
Well-Known Member
Biffo now has your old Phox Mikey btw
Bough a second-hand .177 Weihrauch carbine when living in England for a (thankfully) brief time.
Accurate, yes. Expensive, yes. Good practise, yes. Worthwhile, ermm... not really.
If you have sufficient ground and good reason, get a .22LR rimfire.
They cost almost the same when everything is tallied up but with the rimfire you have a better tool at the end of the day.
Accurate, yes. Expensive, yes. Good practise, yes. Worthwhile, ermm... not really.
If you have sufficient ground and good reason, get a .22LR rimfire.
They cost almost the same when everything is tallied up but with the rimfire you have a better tool at the end of the day.
Similar threads
