Petrol Panic Buying Observations
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shakey jake
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well ive passed 9 stations in the last hour,no diesel at any, im now on 0 miles. all my jobs are from my van, this is a proper mess
baguio
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Maybe they didn't have any diesel like the ones around here?
Just driven back from Bridlington, no fuel to be had there ,3 garages in total with no fuel .
Managed to fill up in Driffield, on Friday the garage charged 1.36 but today diesel is 1.40
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Donnington services and Tibshelf no diesel either .
Got home Tescos closed and b.p queueing back to the m42
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Managed to fill up in Driffield, on Friday the garage charged 1.36 but today diesel is 1.40
.Donnington services and Tibshelf no diesel either .
Got home Tescos closed and b.p queueing back to the m42
.Whitefront
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On Saturday I drove from Perth down to Carlisle. Stopped three times (twice for fuel). One station had a £30 limit, others had no restrictions at all. Filled my pickup in Northumberland this morning - no restrictions, nobody waiting. Just now filled up my wife's petrol car - no restrictions, no waiting.
So it wasn't the idiots who panic buy the fuel, or the idiots who don't keep enough fuel in their vehicles in case of emergency, it's those horrible old folk to blame, the ones that have spent a lifetime managing, but are now spoiling it for the idiots, maybe the Old Folk shouldn't be allowed to drive at all, and if there is a food shortage maybe we should just let them starve to death, problem is most of the old folk through experience, probably have enough food and fuel to last them, through experience and foresight , something the idiots never learned.
Whitefront
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For what it is worth:
“Sometimes, when sensitive details of a government meeting are leaked to the media, it can take months and a full-scale inquiry to identify the mole. No such inquiry has been launched into the leak that prompted the fuel crisis on Thursday, because the shortlist of suspects, according to Whitehall insiders, has only ever consisted of one name. The Road Haulage Association (RHA), which attended a Zoom call hosted by the Cabinet Office to discuss driver shortages, has been accused of prompting the weekend’s panic-buying in order to further its own political agenda. The RHA has been campaigning for months for cheap foreign labour to be allowed back into the country to make up a shortfall of lorry drivers which it has “massively exaggerated”, sources say.” – Daily Telegraph
“Sometimes, when sensitive details of a government meeting are leaked to the media, it can take months and a full-scale inquiry to identify the mole. No such inquiry has been launched into the leak that prompted the fuel crisis on Thursday, because the shortlist of suspects, according to Whitehall insiders, has only ever consisted of one name. The Road Haulage Association (RHA), which attended a Zoom call hosted by the Cabinet Office to discuss driver shortages, has been accused of prompting the weekend’s panic-buying in order to further its own political agenda. The RHA has been campaigning for months for cheap foreign labour to be allowed back into the country to make up a shortfall of lorry drivers which it has “massively exaggerated”, sources say.” – Daily Telegraph
Sounds logical, after all we left the EU in January, so it has taken some time for the shortage of drivers to appear, no doubt some have gone through retirement and Covid unfortunately, but we must bear in mind the RHA is a bit like the CBI, who don't give a monkey about workers as long as the owners, are kept well fed. Cheap labour is their game, and the more drivers available the lower the wages.
baguio
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Calm down, calm down. How much fuel is enough for emergencies? Works vans only have one tank and they empty it in the course of a week. Come Friday it needs filling up or are you saying that people should fill up every day just in case? As for the rest of the rubbish above, it's exactly that, Rubbish. If "the old folk through experience, probably have enough food and fuel to last them, through experience and foresight ," then why were they in the queue for fuel (they 100% were) and in the queue for bog rolls etc just like everyone else (again they 100% were)? Triage based on the urgency, just like a medic would be the ideal solution! Not just for pensioners but for all people. If you don't need to get to work then why, in a shortage do you need fuel? On line deliveries are very good these days so don't give me that stave to death rubbish. Besides, they have enough food to last them through emergencies don't forget!
It's just fortunate that it's not cold because when boilers start breaking down and such like and the trades can't get there because they don't have fuel the selfish will wish that they didn't have their car sitting in 'storage' with a full tank!
Oddly enough, old people tend to have more medical appointments, often a long way away. Quite a lot of them still work/ provide childcare for children of "key workers" etc. Etc. Call me too sceptical, but I doubt armies of pensioners are spending hours sitting in fuel queues just to p1ss off people with jobs.
Well us old folk try to help idiots , thats we we retire, we just didn't know you couldn't cope, so I suppose that is our fault.
I have always kept my tank 3/4 full, was always taught that you should always have enough fuel, because you never know whats around the corner, maybe when you get old you will realise how important that is, one can only hope.
I have always kept my tank 3/4 full, was always taught that you should always have enough fuel, because you never know whats around the corner, maybe when you get old you will realise how important that is, one can only hope.
As per the other "fuel" thread I have to agree with a respected University Professor who sees the situation not so much as panic buying but rather perfectly understandable provoked buying as the narrative, from both Government and media, has at best been unhelpful in this regard. The other issue is that of a lack of trust in Government pronouncements/guidance and the effect that has had on the likelihood of the Public’s adherence to being told "not to panic buy". Just reflect on how certain Government Minsters thought they were above C-19 Lockdown restrictions and the message that sent.
With regard to the media I can see that pictures of petrol station forecourts operating normally lacks impact but that's exactly what would have helped give a balance to the initial situation but by day 2 of reporting “panic at the pumps” it was too late.
K
With regard to the media I can see that pictures of petrol station forecourts operating normally lacks impact but that's exactly what would have helped give a balance to the initial situation but by day 2 of reporting “panic at the pumps” it was too late.
K
I still have 400 miles range left, maybe it's because I'm an old c***, And I was foxing last night, no where near my home, splashed 5 & was sucking on a nice glass of Eastgate by 20:40, first Charlie was splashed at 18:10 in full sunlight, maybe he was out early looking for fuel.?
nun_hunter
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Im sure some of us down South are more prone to panicking but then there are a lot more of us crammed into a lot less space. It's not all bleak rolling moors and wilderness here with tribes of savages roaming around (I've seen Robin Hood Prince of Thieves)
bluesako
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no petrol blame the old gits on here, no toilet rolls blame the old gits for wiping their arses, a shortage of reloading supplies blame the old gits, i was a key worker years ago in the 70s 3 day week, black outs, no petrol no bread we had f .all, but i walked to work, so stfu whining and blaming the elderly because you have no bleed*&g petrol 
baguio
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Agreed. I didn't say for one minute that they didn't need to drive. What I said is that a tank lasts them a long time as does half a tank. Workers should have priority or the country grinds to a halt.
john_little
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Three garages near me had no fuel, the fourth had fuel but they imposed a £30 limit. I could only squeeze a gallon in my car but thought ‘stuff the panic buyers, I’m getting my share’
It's a media generated news story. Initially there were about half a dozen garages that had delivery problems in the south east. Localised driver problems I believe, no doubt some on holiday and a bit of sickness. The media gets hold of it and suddenly it's a major country-wide catastrophe. The usual suspects panic and fill their cars up plus some containers and that then causes shortages and the story of a country-wide problem becomes a sel-fulfilling prophesy. The media should report news, not create it!
It's right that there seems to be less of a problem in the north, where panic buying isn't such an issue.
It's right that there seems to be less of a problem in the north, where panic buying isn't such an issue.
Stalker62
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