Price increase or just plain greedy?

Bukshot

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Venting the spleen a bit here
Bought a nice second hand rifle stock last year but the previous owner made a hash of the sling swivel studs. A US spec one at the front and Euro one at the rear. Long story short, couldn’t change out the studs so bought a single Recknagel Euro style swivel from Alan Rhone for £30 + delivery. Way overpriced but thought what the hell and bought it. Today thought I would get a matching one for the front to fit the US spec stud. Checked AR online and price had gone up to £43.72! For a single f****** swivel!
Are retailers taking the p*** or what? Delivery’s extra BTW. They even increase the prices of the old stock in line with the new!
Just plain greedy if you ask me.
Feel a bit better now having got that off my chest.
 
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Well you can blame whoever invented covid.
Lets be honest EVERY SINGLE ITEM in our grossers shot up in price at the arrival of covid, and it NEVER dropped after covid again. Then BP almost double their prices bragging about the millions they made while blaming Mr Putin… AS IF we don’t know BP have their own oil rigs just off shore from Shetland’s cost.
 
Agreed 💯
Well you can blame whoever invented covid.
Lets be honest EVERY SINGLE ITEM in our grossers shot up in price at the arrival of covid, and it NEVER dropped after covid again. Then BP almost double their prices bragging about the millions they made while blaming Mr Putin… AS IF we don’t know BP have their own oil rigs just off shore from Shetland’s cost.
 
Everything has gone up.

Just look at Accuracy International rifles.

The AT was £2899 when introduced in 2014 it is now £4295 for the same model.

The AT-X which is the new model and not that old at all. £3999 on guntrader with some shops not increasing original prices. This has gone to £4726.

Let’s not even mention Blaser’s price increase. Well yes let’s. New standard barrels were £720 on guntrader. New barrels are now £1195. Now that’s a serious price increase. Let alone the stock prices. You could get a complete rifle for the price of a stock.

Then there are primer, powder and brass prices. I am aware that there is price gouging going on with the primers and personal differed old stock being increased between a mate buying primers and then within hours calling up to purchase the same and paying a lot more for the same product. But I was over a barrel.

Do we blame COVID or Brexit or War in Ukraine.

Prices are just crazy right now.
 
Venting the spleen a bit here
Bought a nice second hand rifle stock last year but the previous owner made a hash of the sling swivel studs. A US spec one at the front and Euro one at the rear. Long story short, couldn’t change out the studs so bought a single Recknagel Euro style swivel from Alan Rhone for £30 + delivery. Way overpriced but thought what the hell and bought it. Today thought I would get a matching one for the front to fit the US spec stud. Checked AR online and price had gone up to £43.72! For a single f****** swivel!
Are retailers taking the p*** or what? Delivery’s extra BTW. They even increase the prices of the old stock in line with the new!
Just plain greedy if you ask me.
Feel a bit better now having got that off my chest.
This is only going to get worse as RFDs and local country sports stockists go under. They have rates, salaries, utilities to pay like everyone else and they have not got any cheaper.

Also worth remembering that all imports are generally distributed by companies that has target sports as a much larger proportion of their business than stalking or game shooting.

If proposed bans come into force, the critical mass required to keep local RFD businesses viable will disappear. Then it will be a long drive to get those factory rounds or little bits of personable advice.
 
unfortunately the cost of everything has gone up as we all know. shipping costs, energy costs, staff want more wages, vehicles, the price you pay on the shelf has to cover this and more. i work in the trade and its frightening what shipping alone now costs compared to pre covid. we can blame the retailers if we wish but then they have to make a margin, the wholsalers could be blamed or it could be the manufacturer........ we are all looking for great deals constantly to support our hobbies/carreer in some cases yet we moan when the price of ammo goes up in our local gun shop or other accessories but shaft them by purchasing overseas brands online to save a couple of quid. cant have it both ways. 👍
 
I can tell you first hand that some of the price increases in supermarkets are working backwards - starting at the outlet, then the supplier, then the producer - usually the producer having the least benefit.
 
Well , yes prices have gone up and gone up considerably ! People generally are asking for more pay to cope with things from their employers, yet the employer is already having margin squeezed out of their product . It got to the point at my engineering suppliers that they re-appraise stock constantly , after having paid over their retail prices to re-order what has just gone .
Its hard keeping my prices down and i am not really adding what i suppose i should , though its a fine line about dropping the volume and making less again .
Inflation is however is self limiting in the short term if we all keep a cool head globally
 
Well , yes prices have gone up and gone up considerably ! People generally are asking for more pay to cope with things from their employers, yet the employer is already having margin squeezed out of their product . It got to the point at my engineering suppliers that they re-appraise stock constantly , after having paid over their retail prices to re-order what has just gone .
Its hard keeping my prices down and i am not really adding what i suppose i should , though its a fine line about dropping the volume and making less again .
Inflation is however is self limiting in the short term if we all keep a cool head globally
Well that is you sir, considering keeping prices as low as you can manage but most others don’t. So good on you!
 
Hard times indeed, quite enough to give you a sore head in fact.
By the way - Mrs FB just told me that a twenty box of Neurofen is £10:40 so soon you won’t even be able to afford a sodding headache!
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Its really quite simple as to why prices have gone up hugely.

1) devaluation of the pound - which immediately adds to cost of imports. In 2016 we got about €1.20 for every £1. Nowadays they are pretty much €1 = £1. Ditto for US $

2) cost of doing business - fuel, labour and money costs have all gone up hugely. Partly due to devaluation of £, partly due to lack of supply and partly due to rise in base rates so cost of money has gone up.

3) Blue Tape - in the past about 40 to 50% of our imports and exports were within a common customs union, so in practice no customs procedures were required at all. You ordered something from a supplier, they popped it in the post and it arrived a couple of days later. You paid for it on order, and your customer paid for it day after it arrived.

Now everything that moves in and out of the UK is subject to customs declarations. Everything has to be recorded, everything needs a customs code so that we can generate a huge amount of data that will tell us precisely what???

A friend runs a wine importing business. There are something 500 different codes just for wine from France. Get the wrong code - products don’t get through.

Exporting product, again get the wrong code, or make a minor mistake, products do not get through.

VAT - again in the past this was paid at point of sale, you then declared imports and exports on your VAT return and whole lot netted off at a government level. Now has it been paid, reclaimed etc etc etc.

And our customs system really hasn’t had all the resources to make it run efficiently, nor for that matter do all the suppliers outwith the UK.

And given the huge extra workload, it affects all imports and exports.

So individual businesses now have the costs of managing all the Blue Tape, costs of chasing customs, or their distribution partners (DHL, Parcelfarce, Hermes etc) to try and find out where the goods are. And then have all the costs of managing their clients expectations.

So going back to the OP question, the gunshop is having to field repeated questions of “where is my …..”. And six minutes of time on £10 an hour min wage costs £1.

And all of the above now means a large chunk of our goods are now taking two, three or six weeks to get through. The big boys are fine - they have the resources to fast track stuff. Little companies do not.

So now you go to your supplier, pay for the goods, and your goods turn up a few weeks later and then you can sell to your customer. Chances are you are using some form of credit to fund these orders and these days that’s costing 5% per month. And this cost is additional to all the above costs of getting goods into and out of the country.

So your prices go up. And this adds to inflation. And all the embuggerance means that UK as source of supply becomes less favourable. So £ is devalued, and cost of government borrowing increases because the markets have less faith in the UK.

This cost of government borrowing is a rise in interest rates, which the Bank of England and the Government will explain away as the medicine required to stop inflation.

And this is a never ending downward spiral that is a direct result of withdrawing from international markets. And a failure to develop new and increased trading relationships.

And whilst those in power stick their heads in the sand business will suffer and our prices will increase.

Don’t worry though, in places like Zimbabwe you pay well over US $100,000 for a very basic pickup truck so we do have a way to go.
 
Going back to the original question on just plain greedy, the greed is at the large corporate level.

Have a think on the high fuel prices and how long they have remained high at the pump, or on the meter or gas bill. But wholesale prices collapsed quite a while ago.

A lot of small businesses are struggling to make ends meet. They have raised their prices but still not by enough to cover their own costs.

Chatting with local restaurant owners here in Edinburgh. Most only now open a few days a week, and even though they are busy on the days they open, the income hardly covers the variable costs of power, ingredients and staff. In many cases they are loosing less money just remaining closed.
 
Talking about greed what about all the people that happily stuck their hand out when the government was giving money away and a lot of people didn't need it. (not saying some people didn't really need it) but that didn't help are situation now. But we have moved on from that now and have forgotten about that. Remember that time when everyone loved me sunak and he was on nearly everyone's Christmas card list.
 
Prices on ammo, parts etc are rocketing, on forward orders you are looking at getting a estimate of the price.
People buying online cheap ripoffs don,t help, real business.
 
People buying online cheap ripoffs don,t help, real business.

Isn't it just the new version of 'mail order' though?

Personally prefer to buy 'big ticket' items from a local shop, not online.

Any issues you can go back. Prices often very competitive and sometimes in store is cheaper than online.
 
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