Price of dogs
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Sounds like you're trying to justify your greed already?
CarlW
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It really isn't.
It is the responsibility of the breeder to find the best homes. That will either be by word of mouth or by a strict interviewing process.
Using the 'high prices keep the chancers away" argument is just a way of many people (not you, I'm sure) feeling better about jumping on the covid price bandwagon.
The best working homes are with proper countrymen. Many of them are poor.
It depends on many things.
Just price your pups at a level you deem fair in the current climate or justifiable to yourself. Presumably if you charge a premium consequent upon the current supply and demand atmosphere, you will also increase the stud fee you pay (if this is to a third party).
I'm sure if the Game Dealers were offering £5 per pound for carcases you wouldn't see a thread on here pontificating about folk should only be taking £2 per pound as a fiver is obscene.........
Just price your pups at a level you deem fair in the current climate or justifiable to yourself. Presumably if you charge a premium consequent upon the current supply and demand atmosphere, you will also increase the stud fee you pay (if this is to a third party).
I'm sure if the Game Dealers were offering £5 per pound for carcases you wouldn't see a thread on here pontificating about folk should only be taking £2 per pound as a fiver is obscene.........
CarlW
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Dogs are not a commodity. Venison is.
I'm afraid you are wrong.
CarlW
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No. You are.
Attach a price tag and I'm afraid you are wrong.
noun, plural com·mod·i·ties.
an article of trade or commerce, especially a product as distinguished from a service.
something of use, advantage, or value.
You can add whatever emotional aspects you like but in the clear light of day in this context, amongst many other things, they are a commodity.
noun, plural com·mod·i·ties.
an article of trade or commerce, especially a product as distinguished from a service.
something of use, advantage, or value.
You can add whatever emotional aspects you like but in the clear light of day in this context, amongst many other things, they are a commodity.
Blimey. This thread has been an education. What you fellas have to put up with...
We don’t pay for dogs. “We” being rural folk who either work and/or hunt with dogs. We trade them, at all ages. Trade is governed by circumstances, needs, favours asked and favours owed.
We don’t pay for dogs. “We” being rural folk who either work and/or hunt with dogs. We trade them, at all ages. Trade is governed by circumstances, needs, favours asked and favours owed.
A fool and their money are easily parted! I don’t think other muppets charging silly prices is a reason to inflate yours. I would price them to cover costs and what I consider “normal”....
we bought a springer recently, good breeding (not exceptional) and she was priced fairly while some muppets were selling springer pups for £2500 which is ridiculous!
People are monopolising on lockdown and it’s the dogs that will suffer, we seem to be moving to a fad of ridiculous breeds (in my opinion) such as french bulldogs that are engineered to die! They can’t swim, must have a harness as they choke, can’t be insured to transport by air, and cannot birth a litter without cesarean section - that’s something that evolution wants shot of!
regards,
Gixer
we bought a springer recently, good breeding (not exceptional) and she was priced fairly while some muppets were selling springer pups for £2500 which is ridiculous!
People are monopolising on lockdown and it’s the dogs that will suffer, we seem to be moving to a fad of ridiculous breeds (in my opinion) such as french bulldogs that are engineered to die! They can’t swim, must have a harness as they choke, can’t be insured to transport by air, and cannot birth a litter without cesarean section - that’s something that evolution wants shot of!
regards,
Gixer
CarlW
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No. They are not. And, I'm not playing the silly dictionary game. Their originator has a responsibility to ensure they go to a good home. That is entirely different from the pricing of venison.
Not entirely sure on this one - I think most of us involved with shooting will know of a working dog that is beaten into submission by an owner - working dogs can be a big focus on a shoot day and I know for a fact some people are way too worried about their “image” And a poor dog can suffer heavily for the slightest mistake that causes embarrassment to the owner, this is rarely the case when a dog is a pet I think.
I agree that dogs love to be out working, but by the same standard when my lab was retired and moved into the house he didn’t look at all bothered to be stretched out in the sofa with four paws in the air compared to in a cold duck pond!
Regards,
Gixer
Personally I would be asking questions To the person and possibly people that know them and also forum and Facebook stalking - it’s amazing what you can find out by this! If I see a loved companion in a previous dog the person had it’s a good indication they care for their pets.
CarlW
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I agree that all sorts of people abuse dogs. However, one thing that I am sure of: rich people are no less likely to do so than those of modest means.Not entirely sure on this one - I think most of us involved with shooting will know of a working dog that is beaten into submission by an owner - working dogs can be a big focus on a shoot day and I know for a fact some people are way too worried about their “image” And a poor dog can suffer heavily for the slightest mistake that causes embarrassment to the owner, this is rarely the case when a dog is a pet I think.
I agree that dogs love to be out working, but by the same standard when my lab was retired and moved into the house he didn’t look at all bothered to be stretched out in the sofa with four paws in the air compared to in a cold duck pond!
Regards,
Gixer
nun_hunter
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The (higher) price alone will not mean you'll get serious buyers who will care for the dog and work them properly. You only need to look on the selling sites and there are already second hand dogs with people asking "just want what I paid for them" now that they have to go back to work or can't cope. These people are still asking £2k upwards for a mongrel.
If you want your dog's to go to genuine working homes then you need to price them in the means of genuine working people. If you're happy they're just going to be let's then sell at £3k but ensure they're going to the right people.
Having had to give up a dog last year it was a horrid feeling and experience but she was free to the right home because in that case her welfare was more important to me than what I could sell her for (which I appreciate is different when you have a whole litter).
If you want your dog's to go to genuine working homes then you need to price them in the means of genuine working people. If you're happy they're just going to be let's then sell at £3k but ensure they're going to the right people.
Having had to give up a dog last year it was a horrid feeling and experience but she was free to the right home because in that case her welfare was more important to me than what I could sell her for (which I appreciate is different when you have a whole litter).
CarlW
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it was the “working people” part I was referring to, not the means...
Understood.
On the "working homes" point, I am specifically thinking of high-drive working dogs. They generally do very badly in pet homes.
Understood.
On the "working homes" point, I am specifically thinking of high-drive working dogs. They generally do very badly in pet homes.
I dare say...(at the risk of offending some) the worst treatment I have seen of dogs are usually trialing dogs...I once saw a person walk a dog a few paces behind a vehicle and what I would describe as “set about” the dog as it had made a few mistakes on the day...it came very close to intervention had it not been over so quickly, and that person is held in much lower regard in my eyes now!
Like I said, "IN THIS CONTEXT".
Like I said, "IT DEPENDS"
You chose to put a different slant on it.
Carl, tell me again this thread isn't about "COMMODITY". I see no mention of sourcing a "GOOD HOME"
Anyway, off out now to run my lurcher at a Red stag.
A well known trialler allegedly used to do the same before a trial so the dog didn't dare do any wrong in the trial. Very sad.
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